Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys (CNET) [LWN.net]

Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys (CNET)

Posted Jul 25, 2013 7:05 UTC (Thu) by jezuch (subscriber, #52988)
In reply to: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys (CNET) by fest3er
Parent article: Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys (CNET)

> Without a valid, authentic warrant, the correct answer to such requests is, "No. Get a warrant."

But they do get it... secret warrants from a secret court (FISC).

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Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys (CNET)

Posted Jul 25, 2013 13:19 UTC (Thu) by dakas (guest, #88146) [Link]

> Without a valid, authentic warrant, the correct answer to such requests is, "No. Get a warrant."
But they do get it... secret warrants from a secret court (FISC).

The point of a warrant is to have accountability. A "secret warrant" is an oxymoron. Since "secret courts" are outside of public perception, they are not under democratic control.

They are a tool of fascist governments, fascism being the doctrine that the interest of the state takes primacy over that of its citizens. This is opposed to to democracy where all power is supposed to be under the ultimate control and supervision of the voters.

The U.S.A. now have secret forces that can make secret investigations based on secret warrants gained from secret courts, and have people dragged into such secret courts without providing defense with the material necessary for its task.

What other traits of the Gestapo and the SS is the U.S. eager to copy in the name of "freedom", a word that is increasingly getting out of fashion in relation of "security"?

What kind of "security" does a citizen enjoy when he can be dragged into prison or killed without a chance of defending himself?