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Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

From:  "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck-AT-linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:  Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh-AT-kernel.crashing.org>
Subject:  Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)
Date:  Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:03:43 -0700
Message-ID:  <20130719060343.GA16774@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:  James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-AT-HansenPartnership.com>, ksummit-2013-discuss-AT-lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh-AT-linuxfoundation.org>, Darren Hart <dvhart-AT-linux.intel.com>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org>, stable <stable-AT-vger.kernel.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds-AT-linux-foundation.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo-AT-kernel.org>
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01:05PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 10:14 +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > OK, I am stupid enough to take a stab at this...
> > > 
> > > 1.    Does the Linux kernel community's health depend on the occasional
> > >       rant?  [My guess is that we simply have no way of knowing.
> > >       That said, I would be interested in hearing specific examples
> > >       of open-source communities that are as doing as well as is the
> > >       Linux community and that live within stricter social mores.
> > >       Cue arguments about exactly what "doing well" means...]
> 
> My little personal opinion (that nobody probably cares about :-) is that
> the occasional Linus rant is a good thing. It keeps people like me in
> check :-)
> 
> More seriously, the rant when I screw up is generally deserved, and the
> "idea" of the possible rant (I prefer not using threat) is actually a
> strong motivator to get things right.
> 
> Ie. It's a *very good* barrier against maintainers sliding into
> sloppyness. Really, it works. At least with me.
> 
> It's easy to take things a bit too much for granted, especially when you
> maintain your own little corner of the world.

Agreed!  Though I must confess that I have shifted from being mostly
worried about people yelling at me to being mostly worried about my own
code yelling at me.  Either way, I do find that being worried about some
consequence or another does help me get a better result.

							Thanx, Paul




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