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On kernel mailing list behavior

On kernel mailing list behavior

Posted Jul 18, 2013 17:22 UTC (Thu) by mgalgs (guest, #85461)
In reply to: On kernel mailing list behavior by mjg59
Parent article: On kernel mailing list behavior

The point is you usually don't use the `F-word' at work (or in most `professional' settings), so it is a bit of a foot-shooting. Unfortunate, because she has some very valid points...


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On kernel mailing list behavior

Posted Jul 18, 2013 17:28 UTC (Thu) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

Her concern is clearly the use of insulting or abusive language, not the use of swearing. Do you really think anyone would read what she wrote and think "Well, I agree that we should behave in a more respectful manner towards each other, but because she said fuck I'm going to go and insult some patch submitters instead"?

On kernel mailing list behavior

Posted Jul 19, 2013 9:31 UTC (Fri) by micka (subscriber, #38720) [Link]

> The point is you usually don't use the `F-word' at work (or in most `professional' settings)

I do.
Most of my coworkers do.
My direct (one or two levels) managers will. I don't have enough contacts with higher-up so I don't know if they do.

(We actually don't use F-words because we don't speak english)

On kernel mailing list behavior

Posted Jul 26, 2013 9:52 UTC (Fri) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link] (2 responses)

Really?
I've never worked anywhere that saying 'fuck' was off limits.

On kernel mailing list behavior

Posted Jul 27, 2013 22:02 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

As with so many things it depends on the context. It is acceptable in the UK to say 'fuck' as a response cry, e.g. after you stubbed your toe (if they banned that they'd have nobody with English as their native language left that could work for them at all). It is borderline acceptable to call code fucking awful (I tended to do it as a self-deprecating joke for code I wrote myself, but even then it's best not to do it if members of high management are around as they had their senses of humour surgically removed). It is defintely not acceptable to e.g. call another person, especially a coworker and *most* especially a customer a 'useless fucker' let alone anything more severe.

So it's all contextual.

On kernel mailing list behavior

Posted Jul 29, 2013 13:13 UTC (Mon) by k8to (guest, #15413) [Link]

I meant the word itself.

Many many words can be used in ways that are workplace-unacceptable. Or even human-being-unacceptable.


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