Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
[Posted July 16, 2013 by corbet]
| From: |
| Rusty Russell <rusty-AT-rustcorp.com.au> |
| To: |
| Linus Torvalds <torvalds-AT-linux-foundation.org>,
Willy Tarreau <w-AT-1wt.eu> |
| Subject: |
| Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review |
| Date: |
| Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:22:14 +0930 |
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| <8738rf14zl.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> |
| Cc: |
| Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp-AT-linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo-AT-kernel.org>,
Guenter Roeck <linux-AT-roeck-us.net>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh-AT-linuxfoundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt-AT-goodmis.org>,
Dave Jones <davej-AT-redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm-AT-linux-foundation.org>,
stable <stable-AT-vger.kernel.org>,
Darren Hart <dvhart-AT-linux.intel.com> |
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, I was amazed that you managed to get him have a much softer tone inr
>> his last e-mail, you probably found a weakness here in his management
>> process :-)
>
> Hey, I _like_ arguing, and "cursing" and "arguing" are actually not at
> all the same thing.
>
> And I really don't tend to curse unless people are doing something
> stupid and annoying. If people have concerns and questions that I feel
> are valid, I'm more than happy to talk about it.
>
> I curse when there isn't any argument. The cursing happens for the
> "you're so f*cking wrong that it's not even worth trying to make
> logical arguments about it, because you have no possible excuse" case.
>
> .. and sometimes people surprise me and come back with a valid excuse
> after all. "My whole family died in a tragic freak accident and my
> pony got cancer, and I was distracted".
>
> And then I might even tell them I'm sorry.
>
> No. Not really.
You have to be harsh with code: People mistake politeness for
uncertainty. Whenever I said 'I prefer if you XYZ' some proportion
didn't realize I meant 'Don't argue unless you have new facts: do XYZ or
go away.' This wastes my time, so I started being explicit.
But be gentle with people. You've already called their baby ugly.
Cheers,
Rusty.
