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Security quotes of the week

Security quotes of the week

Posted Jun 22, 2013 20:27 UTC (Sat) by dlang (subscriber, #313)
In reply to: Security quotes of the week by kleptog
Parent article: Security quotes of the week

the issue isn't the example of 1984, it's the example of the J Edger Hoover FBI. They did enough damage with the capabilities they had at the time, imagine what they could do with what's been put in place now.

at least initially, they won't go after people like Assange with things like the undersized lobster, they will go after people they 'know' are terrorists or mobsters, but just can't prove it (people who "everybody knows" direct the people who do the violence directly, but are able to keep the direct links hidden)

the problem is that rather than "the rule of law", it's turning into "the ends justify the means", as long as the 'bad guys' get locked up, what mechanism was used to get them locked up doesn't matter.

This isn't new, locking up Al Capone for "tax evasion" is an example of this.

this quote from John Adams is the best explanation of the problem that I've found so far.

> It is more important that innocence should be protected, than it is, that guilt be punished; for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world, that all of them cannot be punished.... when innocence itself, is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, 'it is immaterial to me whether I behave well or ill, for virtue itself is no security.' And if such a sentiment as this were to take hold in the mind of the subject that would be the end of all security whatsoever


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