Re: Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

On Tue, 21 May 2013 09:03:54 +0200
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21/05/2013 05:03, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > That's missing the point. If you don't run systemd, having unit files is
> > pointless. Thankfully there's INSTALL_MASK and whatnot, but that seems
> > like a hack instead of something more robust. Why include systemd unit
> > files (by default, with no systemd USE flag, thanks to the council...)
> > on a system that's not using it? 154 files isn't negligible unless
> > you're flippant with your system and don't care about bloat. Unused
> > software sitting around *is* a waste of disk-space.
> > 
> > Some people (like myself) came to Gentoo to avoid putting systemd on
> > their systems and to make use of the great choice that Gentoo allows.
> > This push to make systemd a "first level citizen" or whatever reeks of
> > marketing. If there is desire among users for unit files, they can
> > contact upstream or maintain their own set of unit files. It's not like
> > they're hard to write.
> > 
> 
> <amused long-term user chipping in>
> 
> This is such a weak argument it's quite laughable.
> 
> I don't like gnu info files. Neither me nor anyone I know can figure out
> how to drive info.

Arrows move the cursor, enter follows links, '/' searches. And don't
dare touch anything else because nobody knows what could happen!

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