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"cache drives"

Posted Mar 5, 2013 22:56 UTC (Tue) by ntl (subscriber, #40518)
In reply to: The conclusion of the 3.9 merge window by mathstuf
Parent article: The conclusion of the 3.9 merge window

I don't see why you couldn't use the OCZ drives from your link in a dm-cache configuration today, assuming the vendor hasn't crippled them in some way.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 3:03 UTC (Wed) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link] (2 responses)

Ewww... OCZ drives are bad news from what I am told.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 5:33 UTC (Wed) by drdabbles (guest, #48755) [Link]

I've used many of them in many situations. They are just as good as any other. Turn on TRIM/DISCARD on a recent Intel 320 SSD and the drive will die due to a "known issue".

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Posted Mar 7, 2013 11:25 UTC (Thu) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]

They spontaneously die to firmware glitches sometimes. This is unusual for a hard drive (never had any of my rotating rust do this in 20+ years), but you get used to it after a while. The media isn't actually damaged, just the firmware has stopped talking to you. If removed and re-inserted they will typically wake up and suddenly they're OK again until next time.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 17:07 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (4 responses)

Half of the drive is purely for cache. It's 64GB, but it's only 32GB when mounted (the rest being cache). There's no device for the "other half". I'd like to use that part of the drive in dm-cache, not the part I can use.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 18:02 UTC (Wed) by k3ninho (subscriber, #50375) [Link] (2 responses)

>it's only 32GB when mounted (the rest being cache)
The rest is intended to be used as the NAND cells wear out. The device has twice as much silicon as it needs so that it can be useful for longer, given the high read-erase patterns of scratch caches. The rest is not cache.

K3n.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 18:30 UTC (Wed) by ntl (subscriber, #40518) [Link] (1 responses)

Yeah, I suspected something like this. So the drive exposes only half of its advertised capacity to the host. Assuming the touted "intelligent caching algorithms" are implemented in the drive and not the Windows-only software that OCZ provides, maybe it would compare favorably in a dm-cache configuration to conventional SSDs. Maybe not.

Anyway, the drives in the link seem to be EOL.

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Posted Mar 7, 2013 11:09 UTC (Thu) by Tobu (subscriber, #24111) [Link]

The caching is in their windows software, the SSD has no visibility on the HDD.

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Posted Mar 6, 2013 18:23 UTC (Wed) by Tobu (subscriber, #24111) [Link]

The small print on that page says it has 50% over-provisioning, so not visible outside of the SSD firmware. That must be there to compensate for the dataplex caching driver doing something not SSD-friendly, like heavy in-place rewriting (which would otherwise prevent the FTL from doing its work refreshing cells and spreading writes). bcache at least only writes whole erase blocks (1MB default bucket size), so it doesn't need that kind of overprovisioning.