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Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Posted Feb 16, 2013 14:34 UTC (Sat) by drag (guest, #31333)
In reply to: Opera moves to WebKit and V8 by wahern
Parent article: Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Firefox is alive and kicking very well. So is IE8.

I don't think we have anything to worry about.

I am still kinda surprised anybody cares about Opera, actually.


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Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Posted Feb 17, 2013 10:52 UTC (Sun) by nhippi (subscriber, #34640) [Link]

There are modern already sites that IE fails to render properly, especially on the mobile side. Enough of them that microsoft has even written a guide to help you write portable websites:

http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/20...

There is some deep irony from fate, that when the world was full of "IE only" websites, "mobile IE" sucked and was unable to show those sites. Now that mobile IE is on par with desktop IE, and both are nicely standards compliant, both are having trouble showing some sites, as the world is shifting to webkit-only...

And with IE as the only browser for windows phone, IE has become one of the weak links of the windwows phone platform...

Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Posted Feb 17, 2013 18:22 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

It's hard to ignore browsers which drives over 20% of traffic. You may as well say "I am still kinda surprised anybody cares about iPhone" (which has similar penetration in many countries).

Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Posted Feb 18, 2013 15:51 UTC (Mon) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

You are Russian, I suppose? Otherwise, how hard did you have to dig before you found a site statistic like that?

> You may as well say "I am still kinda surprised anybody cares about iPhone" (which has similar penetration in many countries).

No. Opera isn't anything remotely like a iPhone in terms of popularity or widespread usage.

Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Posted Feb 18, 2013 21:27 UTC (Mon) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link]

Yes, I also perceive a Russian perspective. But Opera did manage to get itself into various devices as an embedded browser - various set-top boxes and consoles - and by the standards of that business their product can probably be considered super-high-quality.

That said, Opera has been in full strategic retreat from what the company was (and still is) known for, hence the emphasis on services and things like Opera Mini. I just interpret this news to be a continuation of that retreat.

Opera moves to WebKit and V8

Posted Feb 19, 2013 18:23 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

You are Russian, I suppose?

Nope.

Otherwise, how hard did you have to dig before you found a site statistic like that?

Site statistic? SITE? I think you don't understand. These are not stats for some website. These are stats for the whole Russian internet. liveinternet.ru is a company which provides something like Google Analytics - but also publishes aggregate numbers. As for the individual sites... On lot of Russian sites over 50% of visitors still come using Opera! Last year Google's Chrome finally become browser number one in Russia by most measures (by some it's still #2). To do that it needed to beat Opera, not Internet Explorer or Firefox!

This was serious problem for us in Russia for years because most developers don't live in Russia and it was pretty hard to convince them to test their stuff with Opera - but as a result huge amount of users have not even tried our products. It was huge problem for our Russian subsidiary.

No. Opera isn't anything remotely like a iPhone in terms of popularity or widespread usage.

In Russia it is. 20% iPhone users in smartphones match 20% of Opera users in browsers almost exactly. If anything percentage of Opera users is higher.


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