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Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 13, 2013 19:18 UTC (Wed) by speedster1 (subscriber, #8143)
In reply to: Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. by HelloWorld
Parent article: Chromatic: Goodnight, Parrot

> And putting "Period." behind a sentence doesn't make it any more true than it would otherwise be. Period.

Period. Typically that would be phrased "following a sentence" rather than "behind", which implies the reverse ordering. Perhaps you are a non-native English speaker who is not familiar with the use of "Period." for emphasis?


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Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 14, 2013 0:41 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

I'm not a native speaker, but I am familiar with the use of "Period." for emphasis. I just happen to think it's stupid. If you have a good point to make, it'll speak for itself, and if you don't, then appending "Period." won't make it any more convincing. That's really all I was trying to say (while ironically using that phrase myself); it seems it didn't really work out due to the behind/following confusion.

Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 14, 2013 17:53 UTC (Thu) by speedster1 (subscriber, #8143) [Link]

Do you feel the same way about the habit of using swear words for emphasis? I knew some people back in my student days who engaged in that habit to the point of ridiculousness. One instance of a linguistic gimmick for emphasis within several posts seemed a little underwhelming in comparison, so that's why I suggested you might have been unfamiliar with the usage rather than really been annoyed...

Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 14, 2013 20:49 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

I disagree with niner's original point, that's probably why his use of "Period." annoyed me more than it otherwise would have.

Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 14, 2013 21:32 UTC (Thu) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

Usually people make the wrong assumption, that they can somehow dictate a concentrated effort on a project they see as important by stopping people from working on other projects. They make this assumption and don't further think about it but assume it must be right. This comes up so often that it's getting boring and I would like to get rid of it once and for all - hence the period.

But as you seem to knowingly disagree, I would very much like to hear your explanation on why you think that the Perl 6 people would work on Perl 5 if Perl 6 were abandoned even though they all very clearly stated that they wouldn't. You're not even making an assumption here, you're flatly denying their statements.

Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 15, 2013 1:54 UTC (Fri) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

The probability of a developer doing useful work while working on a useless project is essentially zero, while it'll be non-zero if he stops working on that useless project. So, in my opinion, there is value in shutting down obsolete or otherwise useless projects.

Granted, this doesn't contradict what you have been saying, but still I think it's a point that should be made.

Should be: Goodnight, Perl 6. Period.

Posted Feb 16, 2013 0:52 UTC (Sat) by raiph (guest, #89283) [Link]

On this page you have said:

> I disagree with niner's original point, that's probably why [niner using an idiom I don't like] annoyed me more than it otherwise would have.

It's not absolutely clear if you were confessing to emotional dysfunction or were justifying your behavior. You appear to be doing the latter without realizing it's the former. If that's wrong, please accept my apologies.

> I'm writing comments to express my opinions. The fact that some people seem not to like them doesn't bother me very much.

Again, is that confessing to emotional dysfunction or justifying your behavior?

> When I see someone doing things that I consider harmful, and my comments stop them (which, btw, I consider unlikely), I won't feel bad for that.

Do you consider all your opinions to be timeless classics or do you sometimes change your mind in light of evidence? If it's the latter, how do you square that with what you've just said? Do you think you just apologize when you find out you're wrong?

> The probability of a developer doing useful work while working on a useless project is ...

... roughly the same as the chance you will understand how ignorant it is, in a dialog like this, to use an opinion that others don't agree with as a premise from which to logically draw further conclusions.

Granted, what I've said so far doesn't contradict what you have been saying, but still I think it's a point that should be made.

I think many of your sentences on this page reflect ignorance bordering on stupidity. And they're annoying. So presumably the tone of this response is justified. Right?

I'm sorely tempted to say I won't be much bothered if you haven't enjoyed this comment. Instead I'll say I hope you get something useful out of it. :)


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