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25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 3, 2013 9:40 UTC (Sun) by efraim (guest, #65977)
In reply to: 25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women by duffy
Parent article: 25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

I don't see anything offensive with in the parent post. I see offensive things in yours though - wanting someone to be banned for posting a comment you just don't agree with is definitely not a behavior I find engaging.


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25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 3, 2013 22:08 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

If he was speaking within GNOME I'd really question if he was following a Code of Conduct. He said he's exaggerating on purpose. One post, no, no need to ban indeed.

However, you quickly want someone else to be banned though. Asking for that is not offensive however.

Within GNOME we've had a Code of Conduct for a long time now. I'm not sure if you ever participated in any of such discussions on how to behave and how to judge.

I guess your intention is that 1 person calling for a ban is not how to do things, to which everyone will agree. However, people are NOT free to say everything they want in any manner that they want. I find it really sad that LWN allows for such bad behaviour to continue endlessly.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 4, 2013 9:02 UTC (Mon) by efraim (guest, #65977) [Link]

A (not-so-)minor nitpick: people ARE free to say what they want in any manner they want. Any forum of course has a relevant code of conduct (terms of use if you will) and does expect its participants to behave accordingly. (or bans them otherwise)

However, I am not aware of any term of LWN terms and conditions which was obviously violated by the grand parent's post and I would like to understand what exactly is violated in GNOMEs code of conduct. I do see a bit of a hyperbole, however I don't think hyperbole is prohibited. (I have not participated in GNOME discussion and obviously do not know what exactly GNOMEs code of conduct contains)

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 4, 2013 10:13 UTC (Mon) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

People aren't free to say anything they want in any manner that they want within GNOME (servers, community events, etc). On LWN site they do unfortunately. In GNOME, they are not.

In GNOME we try to be respectful towards others opinions. A Code of Conduct is not meant for nitpicking and checking if some rule was really broken or not. One of the intentions is that people can have hugely different opinions yet still discuss this. This without for instance resulting in things like exaggerating.

Blujay for instance already said he exaggerated on purpose. IMO he(?) distorted what the people behind this outreach program are trying to do and what the intention is behind this program.

If someones intention is to object to something and not display any behaviour that might result in any change: ok, so be it. But then I prefer if the person just keeps silent, because I'm not interested in venting.

If you want to have some reasonable discussion, it does NOT help at all if you do not show some understanding that purposely exaggerating what other people are doing is NOT helpful at all. I don't expect anything positive to come out of such behaviour (purposely making things more emotional).

"banning", or checking against some list of rules and if they maybe were broken or are also IMO distracting.


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