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25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 2:37 UTC (Sat) by duffy (guest, #31787)
In reply to: 25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women by shmget
Parent article: 25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Then you've probably never been excluded from anything based on the fact you have boobs and a heartbeat, regardless of your skill and experience. Must be nice.


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25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 8:22 UTC (Sat) by shmget (subscriber, #58347) [Link]

No, I have not, nor have I excluded anyone from anything based on that criteria either.
But is blind retribution if proper course of action here ?
iow is excluding some random person because he does not have boobs make things any better ?
If you are in search of retribution, then concentrate against the people that did you wrong... and the random talented kid that was denied a chance because of his lack of boobs is not it.

really, why would anyone even _care_ if a contributor has boobs or not is something that eludes me.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 8:32 UTC (Sat) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497) [Link]

You're saying the problem of discrimination against women would go away if we just pretended it doesn't exist and stopped trying to come up with solutions.

With comments like this you're doing your best to feel women unwelcome here and in the wider open source community.

Please stop.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 9:40 UTC (Sat) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

The other poster is simply saying that two wrongs don't make a right.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 9:47 UTC (Sat) by shmget (subscriber, #58347) [Link]

"You're saying the problem of discrimination against women would go away if we just pretended it doesn't exist and stopped trying to come up with solutions."

No, I'm saying that 'institutionalized job discrimination' is not a viable solution.

"With comments like this you're doing your best to feel women unwelcome here and in the wider open source community."

I'm sorry, do you have a substantive argument to justify how punishing a random qualified applicant based on his gender is a 'good thing', or do you plan to just stick to hand-waving and 'appeal to emotion' fallacy ? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion )

Beside you are giving my comments way to much weight. I doubt that someone that read LWN is not already well involved in floss, and my comments, no matter how misunderstood or mis-characterized they may end-up, are very unlikely to turn a LWN reader away from floss.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 2, 2013 12:24 UTC (Sat) by Company (guest, #57006) [Link]

You need to have been be part of a disadvantaged group that you cannot escape from and have experienced the problem to understand what people are saying here.

It seems to me that men who have battled depression and been told by the world at large to "man up" are far more understanding of the women's cause to give just one example of such a minority.

25 Women in 10 Free Software Organizations for GNOME's Outreach Program for Women

Posted Feb 3, 2013 22:21 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

Nobody is being excluded. Care to explain how people are excluded?


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