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Quotes of the week

Quotes of the week

Posted Jan 31, 2013 17:19 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
In reply to: Quotes of the week by epa
Parent article: Quotes of the week

> I'm not saying the new GNOME is bad or should not be used, just that this isn't really a point of advantage of GNOME 3 against the various forks.

You mean that the fact that Gnome 3 is massively more capable and customizable then Gnome 2 ever was and that Gnome 3 is supported and maintained by the people that actually developed the code, unlike all the forks are not advantages?


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Posted Jan 31, 2013 17:43 UTC (Thu) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

All those things you mention are certainly advantages.

I was addressing the specific point raised in the quotation - that it might not be a good idea to use the GNOME 2 forks because history shows they will probably be dead projects in a few years, just as the GNOME 1 forks are now dead. However, history also shows that GNOME 3 will also probably become a dead project once GNOME 4 is out - just as GNOME 2 is no longer maintained today - so this is not a point of advantage of GNOME 3 over the other desktop environments. In five years or so, the chance is they will all be unmaintained - at least if the past track record continues.

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Posted Jan 31, 2013 17:57 UTC (Thu) by jwarnica (guest, #27492) [Link]

But there was a transition from stock GNOME 2 -> stock GNOME 3. At least, somewhat, with configuration files, settings, and such. There is the (implicit) promise that stock GNOME 3 will be upgradeable to the inevitable stock GNOME 4.

GNOME 3 development cared not at all about the post GNOME 1.x "forks", or even upgrading from stock 1.x, and GNOME 4 development won't care about the 2.x forks.

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Posted Feb 1, 2013 5:54 UTC (Fri) by jmspeex (subscriber, #51639) [Link]

> You mean that the fact that Gnome 3 is massively more capable and customizable then Gnome 2 ever was

Sorry, this is simply not the case. Gnome 3 wants to teach you how to use your computer and prevents you from doing what you were doing before. Gnome 1 was probably the most customizable release. Then gnome 2 made it more "user friendly" by moving all the customization to gconf-editor-only options. Then gnome 3 just took it all away. I mean, if gnome 3 had gotten it right, it might still have been better than gnome 2, but certainly not more customizable.

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Posted Feb 5, 2013 20:30 UTC (Tue) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

Just because we moved from gconf to dconf doesn't mean the options are suddenly gone. Suggest to open dconf-editor. We now even have a tweak tool.

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Posted Feb 5, 2013 21:25 UTC (Tue) by jmspeex (subscriber, #51639) [Link]

Since I first installed Linux in 1995 (originally with fvwm), I've been using a 4x3 matrix of virtual desktops. Tell me how to get that back with gnome3 and dconf.

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Posted Feb 9, 2013 17:58 UTC (Sat) by Jandar (subscriber, #85683) [Link]

I never had a wm with an always visible tool-/task-/whatever-bar. Can I have the maximal screen-estate with gnome3?

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Posted Feb 9, 2013 18:08 UTC (Sat) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

You mean no title bar? That only is done for applications which support it. If you want maximal screen-estate I guess you just want to configure the fullscreen key. See System Settings→Keyboard→Shortcuts→Windows→Toggle fullscreen mode. There also is a standard hint that applications can set to indicate that they do not want a title bar, maybe wmctrl can set that manually or devils pie automatically. Lastly, check for a different metacity/mutter theme.

Out of all suggestions, I don't think too many people have used anything other than just fullscreen so you might run into issues.

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Posted Feb 9, 2013 21:21 UTC (Sat) by Jandar (subscriber, #85683) [Link]

No, I mean no bar from wm or whatever manages the workspaces. The applications I run should have windows with title-bars, or more precise attachments with knobs to control the windows. What I can do without are the permanent tool- and task-bars. Bars of the wm/desktop which can't be configured to autohide will be disabled by me. If there are remaining wm-/desktop-bars with clutter up the screen-estate I switch to a sane environment.


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