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Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Posted Jan 31, 2013 13:01 UTC (Thu) by johannbg (subscriber, #65743)
In reply to: Distributions ponder MariaDB switch by khim
Parent article: Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

We offer a plethora of databases in the distribution so mariadb is going to be a default for what again?

If there is going to be any default database then it has to be an db the keeps messes like this sunacle one out of users face and equally if not better supported out there namely postgresql.


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Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Posted Jan 31, 2013 14:33 UTC (Thu) by philipstorry (subscriber, #45926) [Link]

I imagine by "default DB" what they mean is the default that a package recommends and is configured for.

So in a situation where Drupal, Django and Wordpress can all use either MySQL/MariaDB/PostgreSQL/($AlternativeDB), the package itself will recommend MySQL, and the config files will probably reference MySQL (if such a reference is required).

You're welcome to pick an alternative, but there might be a bit more work involved...

Having tried to set up a couple websites using a CMS - admittedly on Debian/Ubuntu - I have to say that MySQL is pretty much the only default.

I would really, really, really like the default to be PostgreSQL. Both for ideological reasons and for pragmatic reasons. But the simple fact is that the developers of many systems might say that non-MySQL DBs are supported, but they onlyt seem to test with MySQL.
So unless you want to be the tester, you pretty much just pick MySQL and go with it.

My brief experience with alternate DBs for what will probably be the most popular usage case therefore leaves me unconvinced that this is a decision that Fedora should be taking.
This decision should be being made upstream with the projects themselves. Let them take the decision on what's their recommended DB, and let them do the testing for the users. Anything else is just asking for trouble.

Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Posted Jan 31, 2013 17:16 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Very few people have any interest in exploring any sort of database that isn't installed when they do 'yum install <thiswebapp>'

Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Posted Feb 1, 2013 8:14 UTC (Fri) by zlynx (subscriber, #2285) [Link]

They should care about the database, because they are going to end up needing to use the thing. They might lock themselves out of important tables and need to start it up in admin override mode. They might need to configure it to allow remote access from certain IP ranges. They might need to do a backup recovery, or do backups at all.

No matter how much they like being a Ruby on Rails developer, the system owner is going to need to deal with the database on a basic level of system admin and should pick one he or she likes.

Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Posted Feb 1, 2013 19:33 UTC (Fri) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

I think the point is not "they should not care". It is instead "they do not care".

We all ought to do lots of things that we actually do not.

Distributions ponder MariaDB switch

Posted Feb 2, 2013 22:43 UTC (Sat) by el_presidente (guest, #87621) [Link]

If you have to choose between two databases that seem to be exactly the same, it's probably a good idea to trust the default.


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