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Posted Jan 30, 2013 20:33 UTC (Wed) by aleXXX (subscriber, #2742)
In reply to: Seigo: by micka
Parent article: Seigo:

I have to agree.
I organize my music in folders: artist, then album.
Easy to navigate.
Each time I try to use some tagging mode (doesn't matter whether rockbox or amarok or something else), it screws up.
The tags e.g. for the artist usually use different ways to spell the name, or what to do with spaces, or umlauts, so I end up with multiple folders for the same artist, just written in a slightly different way. Then having to figure out in which of these folders the album I'm looking for is located is too much.
Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if editing the metadata would be straight forward, but it isn't. Editing directory names is straight forward.


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Posted Jan 30, 2013 21:09 UTC (Wed) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

> Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if editing the metadata would be straight forward, but it isn't.

Is that a fundamental problem with the technological idea or a UI problem with the implementation because it seems that Plasma is about fixing the UI problems to make this straight forward.


Posted Jan 30, 2013 21:32 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Yeah, that scheme works great. Until you run into classical works, in which the composer and performer are different people. And then there are works with multiple performers or composers...

... it does break down in the end. And when it does, you have to reclassify *everything*.


Posted Jan 31, 2013 15:48 UTC (Thu) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]

It's frustrating. Even with tagging it breaks down, because tagging systems tend to be naive in that they assume either a limited number of keys or a limited number of values for each key (often only one).

The related problem is syncing metadata from tagging systems with files when the move between systems. Embedding tag data in files works well but is format specific and usually quite limited (example: you're reading ID3v2 data from an MP3. Quick, what is the encoding of the textual data?)

The lowest common denominator is directories and file names, because every system has those and no agreement on key names is required.

There's probably a need for a portable file API for tagging. Something that raises the lowest denominator a bit but doesn't mandate an on disk format, indexes, complex protocols, etc..


Posted Jan 30, 2013 22:16 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]

I edit the metadata of files I rip locally from CD at the time of ripping, via the check-and-edit stage of my ripping package. I trust files provided through Proper Channels by the artist or their authorized representatives to be correctly tagged, or at least to be incorrectly tagged in an adequately consistent manner.

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