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Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

Posted Jan 30, 2013 3:23 UTC (Wed) by apoelstra (subscriber, #75205)
In reply to: Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture by samlh
Parent article: Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

> LWN could not exist if the editors did not get money to buy food with.

We pay the editors because they are willing to write and operate this wonderful site in exchange for the money -- completely unrelated to the legality of redistributing their work.


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Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

Posted Jan 30, 2013 3:46 UTC (Wed) by samlh (subscriber, #56788) [Link]

Leaving aside questions of morality, if it was legal to repost articles under your own name or to collect articles from around the internet into a book and sell it, perhaps the sites like LWN could stay afloat. I doubt it, however.

Please note, I agree the system is not perfect, but wholesale abolishment will cause far more problems than they solve. I, for one, support the rights of the Linux copyright holders to require compliance with the GPL.

Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

Posted Jan 30, 2013 18:12 UTC (Wed) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Leaving aside questions of morality, if it was legal to repost articles under your own name or to collect articles from around the internet into a book and sell it, perhaps the sites like LWN could stay afloat.

Sorry, but this is bullshit. You are mixing two totally unrelated issues: copyright and plagiarism. Plagiarism was considered a big problem for thousands of years and has nothing to do with modern copyright.

The fact that LWN does not try to enforce it's copyright all that strictly (all articles more then one week old are free and are widely circulated on the net) shows that you don't need to enforce copyright all that strictly beyond the unalianable rights (the "right for the name", mostly).

Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

Posted Jan 31, 2013 5:45 UTC (Thu) by blujay (guest, #39961) [Link]

It's my understanding that plagiarism was NOT considered a problem until recent times. Ancient authors freely used works by other authors long dead, wrote anonymously, and even wrote pseudonymously, using the names of ancient authors. Ideas and words used to be free, as in speech. Only recently did the idea of owning imaginary property come about.

Villa: Pushing back against licensing and the permission culture

Posted Jan 31, 2013 12:18 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Well, if first century is "recent times" to you, then yes. Till about then it was not a big problem since human settlements were small and people know each other well enough that it was impossible to pretend you are great philosopher using only works of others. As settlement grew problem become more and more acute but it become serious problem only after invention of printing press since that's when reader finally lost any hope of ever seeing the author end and when price of books went down so drastically that you needed to sell thousands of them to make a decent living.


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