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Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 28, 2013 17:18 UTC (Mon) by mgb (guest, #3226)
In reply to: Poettering: The Biggest Myths by mezcalero
Parent article: Poettering: The Biggest Myths

> Do I now have to update the article with a 31st entry?

It would be far better if you spent your time factoring systemd into properly engineered and decoupled projects.

I'm sure you can figure out how to manage a cgroup from other than pid 1.


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Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 28, 2013 17:48 UTC (Mon) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

Dude, if you think it's so easy to provide the set of features that systemd does in a significantly less-coupled and modular way, go ahead and do it. But if you can't, then stop telling other people how to do their job. Because unlike you, they are actually doing something *useful* instead of bitching about other people's work.

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 28, 2013 18:16 UTC (Mon) by mgb (guest, #3226) [Link]

We don't need to create a well-engineered decoupled solution because most distros still have it.

Udev modularity has gone from many distros but there is no engineering reason for that, just the usual Poettering Power Play.

Read up on cgroups if you want to see how easy it is to not include the cgroups functionality in init.

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 28, 2013 21:22 UTC (Mon) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

I just can't tell you how glad I am that this "well-engineered decoupled" piece of crap that's SysV init is no longer in my distribution of choice. Because _finally_ we got rid of the serious flaws.

Thank you very much to all systemd developers (they are more than one you know).

As soon as we see any contribution by you at all, you may earn our gratitude as well.

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 29, 2013 21:42 UTC (Tue) by aleXXX (subscriber, #2742) [Link]

Please stop calling people "Dude".

Alex

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 29, 2013 8:54 UTC (Tue) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]

I assume you never used sysvinit on a distribution where /bin/sh does not point to bash? Obviously if you use /bin/sh you should not use any bash features. However, real life is different. I prefer systemd over anything that you call well engineered :P


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