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Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Poettering: The Biggest Myths

Posted Jan 27, 2013 23:13 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950)
In reply to: Poettering: The Biggest Myths by hazard
Parent article: Poettering: The Biggest Myths

If the init system was intended to be changed every few years, then I'd understand your point. But it is one change in 10+ years (depending on distro, etc).

So 'change is bad': agree. But this is a one-time change. Obviously there is pain in relearning things. But there are also loads of benefits, e.g. systemctl status $SERVICE actually gives meaningful output. Furthermore, you can have systemd reliably detect crashed services and have them restart automatically (no need for some monitor script). Things like this I see as hugely beneficial. One one server amavis dies every few months for reasons unknown. Restart and it'll work for months again. Pretty nice if that is supported instead of yet another monitoring script.

Regarding representing the entire user-base, you said:

Sorry, real life doesn't work this way. What people know DOES matter, what your existing customer base wants also DOES matter.

I doubt anyone fully knows what (e.g. Fedora) users want. Maybe they want systemd, maybe not. You suggest that change is bad and to me you were trying to speak on behalf of everyone with above. Misread that.


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