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Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 25, 2013 18:52 UTC (Fri) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454)
In reply to: Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark by robert_s
Parent article: Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

They are an i18n trainwreck too

Most languages do not use two/three-letter words for on/off. But the widget assumes it is the case (on/off is the only bit that makes it non-ambiguous; every time I see it I'm reminded of All the UI disasters where designers had to include a huge "press here" arrow to get users to notice their hidden-in-chrome button)


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Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 26, 2013 1:22 UTC (Sat) by misc (subscriber, #73730) [Link]

On my version of gnome ( 3.6 on F18 ), there is nothing to translate. Either the widget is greyed, with a O to mean "unchecked", or this is blue, with a I, to mean checked. I am not sure of that's colorblind friendly.

So i guess the "on/off" is just a locale variation of the gtkSwitch widget ?

Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 27, 2013 16:00 UTC (Sun) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

I can never remember which of I and O is on and which is off. I remember that the O looks like a closed circuit, but I can't remember if there's a "but its backwards" part to it as well. To be fair, the I can be rationalized as a crossbar linking a switch, so "it closes the circuit" isn't foolproof. Anyone have a trick that works for them?

Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 27, 2013 16:22 UTC (Sun) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

Binary: 1 is on, 0 is off?

Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 28, 2013 22:48 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

That's probably how I *should* remember it, but I encountered the symbols before I knew binary, so it wasn't a trick I would have come up with. Maybe I'll remember it now that I've commented here about it, but historically my problem with mnemonics (and similar tricks) is that I can't remember the mnemonic itself, defeating the purpose. Usually, it takes some rather obscure connection for it to "click" and be second nature.

Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 29, 2013 16:09 UTC (Tue) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497) [Link]

I believe these come from the IEC standard ("Graphical symbols for use on equipment"). And yes, they were inspired by binary 0 and 1, if you trust Wikipedia.

Clasen: GNOME 3.7 at the halfway mark

Posted Jan 28, 2013 16:32 UTC (Mon) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

The "on/off" is the original English widget, that GNOME people found so cool-intuitive-and-self-explanatory they fostered it on everyone. It's based on some physical switches common on a few Anglo-Saxon locales, that were never used anywhere else because their English-only nature. (physical should have raised warning bells, software is not hardware, most physical analogies have a terrible history)

Of course during the implementation process they found the whole concept was untranslatable. Instead of revisiting the original decision, they just dumped the text labels on most locales


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