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Neutral values

Posted Dec 30, 2012 17:36 UTC (Sun) by Kit (guest, #55925)
In reply to: Neutral values by man_ls
Parent article: Petition: promote the use of free software in US schools

> Second because of the hubris: what makes you think that you are actually more qualified to
> teach your children than a professional?

Having gone through the US education system (assuming the schools I attended, and the schools of the people I have spoken to, are at all representative), that's likely a safe bet. Most of the teachers I had over the years barely understood the material enough to present it to the students. Many, many teachers struggled to even answer basic questions. When I was younger, I had just assumed I didn't know enough to understand their answers. Later on, when there was material I already understood fairly well, it became quite obvious they had no clue what they were talking about when they gave completely nonsensical answers.

This is due to the design of the system. The system isn't designed to identify the best teachers are reward them, while removing the bad teachers. It's designed to reward those that manage to go the longest without doing something stupid enough to get fired. I have no idea how the teachers that are actually competent (they do exist) are able to stand it... maybe they can't and that's why.

There are many other problems beyond just the teachers, though.

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Posted Jan 7, 2013 13:10 UTC (Mon) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]

> I have no idea how the teachers that are actually competent (they do exist) are able to stand it... maybe they can't and that's why.

Competent teachers get burned out very fast, or stick in due to an incredibly, incredible love of teaching. We lose many, however, who are more than good but just not psychologically prepared to be good teachers and constantly fight the school system.

I worked in US school IT for a while and I've seen all stages, from the engaged first-years, to the jaded but caring middle years, to the "I gave up a long time ago and only care about getting paid"s, to the lifers, some of whom still love to teach and some of whom seem to absolutely hate schoolchildren. Any teacher with >5 years experience in the US will tell you it's royally screwed up, but not many have the will to see past their daily grind and attempt any solution. And I can't blame them, given what they must deal with.

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