The eudev project launches

Posted Dec 20, 2012 19:40 UTC (Thu) by Jandar (subscriber, #85683)
In reply to: The eudev project launches by HelloWorld
Parent article: The eudev project launches

> You can't fix poorly-chosen terminology by explaining it afterwards, it just doesn't work. KDE got a huge amount of flak for calling a beta release "4.0".

KDE got a huge amount of flak even though the beta-status of 4.0 was announced beforehand.

excerpt from http://www.commit-digest.org/issues/2007-12-30/ :

Before everyone starts to spread their opinion about KDE 4.0, let me spread some reminders:
KDE 4.0 is not KDE4 but only the first (4.0.0 even non-bugfix) release in a years-long KDE 4 series to come.
KDE 4.0 is known to have missing parts or temporary implementations (eg. printing, PIM, Plasma).
Most changes happened under the surface and cannot be discovered in a "30 minutes usage" review anyway.
User interfaces being unchanged in 4.0 compared to 3.5 may be still changed/improved during KDE 4 life time.
KDE 4.0 will not be the fastest KDE 4 release - like for KDE 2 most speed optimizations will happen later during KDE 4.
Most applications (many are not even fully ported yet) will take only advantage of new features which the new Qt/KDE libraries offer later.
Don't measure portability success (eg. MS Windows) by current availability of application releases, they will come.
KDE 4.0 is only expected to be used by early adopters, not every KDE 3.5 user (and IMHO KDE 4.0 shouldn't be pushed onto other user types like planned for Kubuntu ShipIt (which by the way is said to have only 6 months support for its packages)).
KDE 4.1 development will not require the same amount of time as the big technology jump of KDE 4.0: expect KDE 4.1 later this year.
Last, again: KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4.

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The eudev project launches

Posted Dec 20, 2012 20:02 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link] (1 responses)

Please. All this has been hashed out to death and ignored before.

The KDE4 lesson is simple: if something's not ready for release, don't put a .0 on it.

People don't read disclaimers. Nor should they have to.

The eudev project launches

Posted Dec 20, 2012 22:14 UTC (Thu) by Jandar (subscriber, #85683) [Link]

> People don't read disclaimers. Nor should they have to.

Average people shouldn't forced to read disclaimers but distribution maintainers should. Distributing KDE 4.0 was a irresponsible decision for any distribution catering normal users.

The eudev project launches

Posted Dec 20, 2012 21:07 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

> KDE got a huge amount of flak even though the beta-status of 4.0 was announced beforehand.
You really don't get it, do you? Nobody reads that crap you've been quoting. It's really, really simple: if it's not a proper release, don't call it 4.0. No ifs, no buts, just don't do it.

The eudev project launches

Posted Dec 20, 2012 21:12 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

I just realised that that quote even clearly says that KDE 4.0 is meant to be used:

> KDE 4.0 is only expected to be used by early adopters
An early adopter is *not* a beta tester and shouldn't be treated as such.