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Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

Posted Nov 22, 2012 22:25 UTC (Thu) by SecretEuroPatentAgentMan (guest, #66656)
In reply to: Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times) by drag
Parent article: Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

> > Well, what's a little threat of public shaming between, umm, friends?

> That's how public officials control nameless bureaucrats that work for them.

> When bureaucrats enforce some law in a way that is unpopular then some elected bozo swoops in publicly ridicules said bureaucrat and then fires them. In the common vernacular it is called 'Throwing somebody under the bus'.

The expression is rather interesting. However I have never heard of any Examiners having been fired. The relationship between patent attorneys/agents on one hand and Examiners on the other can at times be rather tense. Quite a few Examiners are well known within the profession for their style. A few are also known in several fora and one has been banned on one forum. Yet I have never heard of any being fired.

[about the US legal situation]
> This is the literal truth on how the USA federal government is ran and has been ran for the last 75 years or so.

My impression is that many US lawmakers are themselves lawyers. I don't know of other countries like this.


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Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

Posted Nov 23, 2012 9:58 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

My impression is that many US lawmakers are themselves lawyers. I don't know of other countries like this.
You call yourself SecretEuroPatentAgentMan yet don't realise that the largest profession of UK Members of Parliament by far is the law? Bad sign. Perhaps the 'Euro' in your name indicates the eurozone only, or you don't pay attention to politics?

(That's not the most disturbing concentration in Parliament though. The most disturbing concentration is the number of members of the front benches who are ex-special advisors, closely followed by the number who have taken Philosophy, Politics, and Economics at Oxford. The French grandes ecoles have nothing on this for insularity. That's not to damn PPE at Oxford -- not all PPEers become politicians, my cousin took it but became a Google lawyer instead -- but it is a sign of a dangerous lack of wider experience among the UK political class.)

Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

Posted Nov 23, 2012 11:43 UTC (Fri) by SecretEuroPatentAgentMan (guest, #66656) [Link]

That "Euro" part is to indicate I am somewhere in Europe which incidentally is larger than the Eurozone. It is mildly amusing that you believe I should be an expert in British political matters when the view from GB is "Fog in Channel; Continent Cut Off"".

I had the impression that the Parliament and the civil service had a lot of graduates from Oxford and Cambridge (or "both universities", as I once heard it). That the largest profession was law is interesting.

Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

Posted Nov 23, 2012 12:53 UTC (Fri) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]

In the current parliament the most common prior career is "party hack".

Apple Now Owns the Page Turn (New York Times)

Posted Nov 23, 2012 10:17 UTC (Fri) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]

I'd be very surprised to find a country where lawyers are not a larger proportion of the legislature than the population at large. America probably ends up with the highest proportion of lawyers simply due to never having had a mainstream socialist party.


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