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Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users

Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users

Posted Nov 16, 2012 21:05 UTC (Fri) by Trelane (subscriber, #56877)
In reply to: Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users by luya
Parent article: Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users

> Developers are nothing more than specialized users themselves, the reverse is not necessarily true.

Beyond that. Firefox and GNOME both have a set of things that are exposed to the user in a control panel. Both have an advanced settings method for advanced users (about:config and gsettings). And both are arbitrarily extensible via HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

It is this last point which is the pivotal one here because that's the level at which you're arguing. The argument of the OP is that

> because anyone who knows HTMl, CSS and/or Javascript is a developer, not a user.

Their argument would then be, in the Firefox case, that you cannot claim that Firefox is configurable since in order to configure it via HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, you have to be a programmer.

In this light the argument seems ridiculous. Non-programmer users install GNOME extensions (from the website https://extensions.gnome.org/ or through their distro), the same as they do in Firefox (addons.mozilla.org)

(The second part that was not quoted is a fair (assuming completely true) argument that the tooling sucks but not that it's not configurable via the aforementioned methods.)


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Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users

Posted Nov 17, 2012 3:45 UTC (Sat) by wagerrard (guest, #87558) [Link]

Extensions are irrelevant because they are not part of Gnome and are not supported by Gnome. If they were, releases would be accompanied by collections of tested, working, extensions. Their relationship to Gnome is much like that of Wordpress plugins to Wordpress. I.e., use at your own risk.

There is nothing in Gnome3 like about:config. Dconf/gconf are available, but without user documentation. ("Want to add an app to the panel? Here's how..... Want to eliminate the icons from the App Overview and see a list of names? Here's how....")

Besides, almost all extensions attempt to revive Gnome2-like capabilities that were stripped out of Gnome3. The irony of that is apparent.

Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users

Posted Nov 17, 2012 6:55 UTC (Sat) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> Their argument would then be, in the Firefox case, that you cannot claim that Firefox is configurable since in order to configure it via HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, you have to be a programmer.

Except, of course, FF can be and is configured without writing HTML, CSS or Javascript.


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