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Haters gonna hate, for sure

Haters gonna hate, for sure

Posted Nov 12, 2012 3:49 UTC (Mon) by pizza (subscriber, #46)
In reply to: Haters gonna hate, for sure by bronson
Parent article: Mena-Quintero: A Friday rant on Gnome 3, journalists, and power users

Yup, I mentioned the fact that *I* use the Activities overview to solve very real problems I had with the old paradigm. It simply didn't scale.

I use the best tools I can find to get my work done in the most expedient and efficient manner; tools that still respect my freedom as a user and a developer (which are the same in the FSF's eyes!) As I type this, the best option that meets my needs is Gnome3.

I don't care one bit what anyone else uses to get their work done. That's for them to decide for themselves. Nobody's forcing anyone to change or stop using their existing software/desktop environment; it's one of the core principles of the Free Software Movement -- the empowerment of its users.


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Haters gonna hate, for sure

Posted Nov 12, 2012 4:47 UTC (Mon) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

If you consider that a fact then the post you're disagreeing with is full of facts!

Most people would consider that an anecdote.

Haters gonna hate, for sure

Posted Nov 12, 2012 12:02 UTC (Mon) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

Sorry, if you're going to split hairs, then at least split the correct hairs.

The *fact* is that *I* find Gnome3's new paradigm better than the old one.

The precise reasons why are a matter of opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that there is provably one person out there who is better off. This disproves bojan's assertion that "nobody" is better off with gnome3, and that it solves problems that don't exist.

Haters gonna hate, for sure

Posted Nov 12, 2012 22:24 UTC (Mon) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> This disproves bojan's assertion that "nobody" is better off with gnome3,

Never asserted any such thing.

> and that it solves problems that don't exist.

That I disagree with, on facts. None of the things that are present in activities overview are new or innovative. Hiding access to all those things was already done as well (and mostly without repainting the whole screen). So, no, activities overview does not solve any problems that have not already been solved in a desktop environment.

PS. As I stated many times, on some devices this kind of indirection is absolutely required. Tablets and especially phones have smaller screens, fingers as pointing devices which cannot hover or right click, so trying to squeeze "desktop control elements" on the screen there is not useful.

Haters gonna hate, for sure

Posted Nov 23, 2012 8:31 UTC (Fri) by TRauMa (guest, #16483) [Link]

You said Gnome3 is solving a problem no one is having, he said, "Wait, I had that problem, and it solved it". This whole discussion is just painful to read, it's more about fighting and venting than actually reading what the other party said.


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