GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode [LWN.net]

GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

Posted Nov 10, 2012 18:46 UTC (Sat) by deepfire (guest, #26138)
Parent article: GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

I'm raising this article link to the top level, since it seems rather apropos (thank you patrick_g!):

GNOME (et al): Rotting In Threes -- https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-ro...

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GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

Posted Nov 10, 2012 18:57 UTC (Sat) by deepfire (guest, #26138) [Link]

Tasty quote, apropos Transmission having to remove its status icon _option_:

> mccann replies:
>
> I guess you have to decide if you are a GNOME app, an Ubuntu app, or
> an XFCE app unfortunately. I’m sorry that this is the case but it wasn’t
> GNOME’s fault that Ubuntu has started this fork. And I have no idea what
> XFCE is or does sorry.
>
> It is my hope that you are a GNOME app…

This article needs publicity.

To me, GNOME developers seem having come from some different planet.

GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

Posted Nov 10, 2012 19:26 UTC (Sat) by rleigh (guest, #14622) [Link]

This was a good (if depressing) read, and reflects exactly my feelings about how and why GNOME has failed, and the absolutely unforgivable travesty which is the deliberate breaking of GTK+.

When such issues, clearly spelled out, still don't seem to have made it into the collective GNOME consciousness, it does not bode well for the future of GTK+. There was (and is) a massive userbase of GTK+ application developers who use GTK+ outside of the confines of GNOME. Are they all going to be completely screwed over by these people? It would unfortunately appear that this is exactly what is happening.

The main problem seems to be the unhealthy obsession with the "brand" and superficial appearance of the software to the detriment of all else. There are much bigger fish to fry than this superficial frippery.

GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

Posted Nov 11, 2012 2:19 UTC (Sun) by LightDot (guest, #73140) [Link] (2 responses)

I was flabbergasted to see some of the Gnome developer comments that are quoted on this blog. These are Red Hat employed developers..?

Did it really come this far that even extensions and themes are considered detrimental to Gnome project goals? Which is... what? Corporate branding?

I'm speechless.

GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

Posted Nov 11, 2012 22:04 UTC (Sun) by vonbrand (guest, #4458) [Link] (1 responses)

That one Gnome developer has aired a view that grates you the wrong way is truly appalling...

GNOME 3.8 to drop fallback mode

Posted Nov 11, 2012 23:34 UTC (Sun) by LightDot (guest, #73140) [Link]

I have simply used one view I find especially out of this world as an example. But I have been speaking in plural and let me rephrase, just to be absolutely clear - all of those views, bug report responses, etc. mentioned in the blog seem appalling to me.

I won't list the developers names here as I don't want to make this in any way personal (it really isn't), but I believe I have counted at least five persons, all presumably employed by Red Hat to work on Gnome, GTK+ or related tasks.

I just don't see these as merely sporadic private views of people that don't have any weight. I also don't see these views as uncharacteristic of the way Gnome 3 is taking lately. Am I wrong? I'd be glad to be wrong.