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We "can't eliminate them"?

We "can't eliminate them"?

Posted Nov 6, 2012 22:42 UTC (Tue) by Rudd-O (guest, #61155)
In reply to: We "can't eliminate them"? by pboddie
Parent article: Let’s Limit the Effect of Software Patents, Since We Can’t Eliminate Them (Wired)

> the way to deal with this is to educate your representatives

Your representatives will be duly re-educated through bribes, er, campaign contributions.

There is a reason they became politicians, instead of career engineers or doctors. Contrary to what they would have you believe, the reason isn't because they wanted to contribute to human advancement. Think about that.

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We "can't eliminate them"?

Posted Nov 7, 2012 11:34 UTC (Wed) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link]

Can you for a moment not emulate various other contributors to this site by assuming that you are the first ever person to have thought of things which are actually widely recognised, even if those who have already recognised them are not going around telling everybody else about them all the time?

Anyone who has paid a couple of minutes' attention to student politics and who has seen student politicians go on to high-level political careers (or at least attempt to do so) is aware that for some people, politics and policy is more interesting than actually doing the things that policy influences and controls, and that they will happily avoid doing any other kind of work (including, quite probably, completing their studies) in order to have that influence over other people. Do you really believe that no-one else has noticed?

For the vast majority of people, not engaging with politicians or politics - presumably choosing instead to barter with their fellow survivalists off the grid in a manner reminiscent of a badly-written Kevin Costner production - is not a luxury they can afford. Those people have jobs to do and businesses to run and cannot simply brush off threats to those things from aggressive entities, empowered by the government or otherwise, by merely refusing to accept the power of any authority, or whatever the war cry is supposed to be. Those people have to live with the situation that exists for them right now and use whatever influence they can muster to improve it.

Think about that.

We "can't eliminate them"?

Posted Nov 7, 2012 13:54 UTC (Wed) by vonbrand (guest, #4458) [Link]

I seriously doubt any mayority of politicians (or any other random breed of human) is intrinsecally corrupt. People are smarter than is generally thought, somebody who lies all day long is found out long before running for any meaningful office. Sure, for a corruptor is pays off to convince somebody in a position to do something, trying to influence even our Most Esteemed Editor to work pro-software-patents is kind of useless (even if it succeeded).

Never forget Hanlon's razor: Don't attibute to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity. Government (or any other largeish group of people) offers plenty of entertaining examples. People (including politicians) are lazy, don't have all the relevant facts, don't have the drive to find out (or the resources, or the time), and end up muddling their way out of anything that requires decisions. Plus we are intrinsecally tinted by some ideology, of which I believe Carter said recently that it makes up an opinion before looking for the facts.

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