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Posted Nov 6, 2012 21:35 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
In particular, the "real money" streak of this madness is the most virulent one. It sounds so nice (hey, gold is real!) but in reality is nothing more than physiocracy in modern clothes.
Posted Nov 6, 2012 21:48 UTC (Tue) by Rudd-O (guest, #61155)
> If the ideas had any grounding in reality
> "real money" streak of this madness is the most virulent on
> is nothing more than physiocracy
To everyone else:
You are witnessing the standard emotional defenses of a person so terrified of an idea, that he must discredit it at all cost (including human reason). I wish I could address them and calm this person down, but fear is just more powerful than reason.
I do have a question for the rest of you: Do you see the parallels of how he behaved here, and what Microsoft apologists did when Linux was the up-and-coming threat?
Posted Nov 6, 2012 22:31 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
And most of all, I utterly despise libertarians. They are beneath contempt. They profess that they don't like "intangible" stuff like fiat currency or government. But at the same time they are professing their belief in intangible "property rights" and very much want government to protect THEM.
At least, survivo-anarchists are honest. They admit that there are no "rights", there's only brute strength so strong can grab whatever they can defend (with guns).
Posted Nov 6, 2012 22:54 UTC (Tue) by Rudd-O (guest, #61155)
See, guys, what I said about Cyberax and his anger? Was I mistaken or was I spot-on? Do you think that a productive conversation can be had with such an angry individual?
(The funniest thing is I'm not even a libertarian, bahahaa!)
Posted Nov 6, 2012 23:44 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
In particular, why should "property rights" be treated different from anything else? What makes them so precious that you want them to be enforced, by government?
Posted Nov 7, 2012 18:46 UTC (Wed) by Rudd-O (guest, #61155)
Posted Nov 7, 2012 11:30 UTC (Wed) by k3ninho (subscriber, #50375)
You don't have a choice - either you engage in the discussion, or you're provoking another poster for the fun of it. This is an ad-hominem attack - you're playing the person and not the debate - I call that trolling.
When it comes to it, your post which spawns this discussion says that we have to do something by definition it *can't* do: overcome the system. There's a legacy structure in place which we can't remove - our physical bodies, the laws of thermodynamics and a wealth system which motivates people to do work against the laws of thermodynamics (arranging a bit of temporary order in the chaos) on threat of depriving or harming your physical body. If you can come up with a way past that, I'll happily sublime into a state as an energy being with you.
So it's not about bringing down the government, or the monied people, or the entrenched system-as-it-is. We have to get people together to take apart and rebuild the system-as-it-is into the system-as-it-will-be. That's what Richard advocates, and why he's right and you're wrong.
Posted Nov 7, 2012 18:59 UTC (Wed) by Rudd-O (guest, #61155)
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