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LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 2:09 UTC (Sat) by liam (subscriber, #84133)
Parent article: LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

I wish they'd have an optout user check-in on first run.
This is the same thing distros should be doing. There needn't be anything personally identifying, just unique identifiers generated to track activations.


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LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 2:58 UTC (Sat) by MarkVandenBorre (subscriber, #26071) [Link]

Debian has popcon...

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 5:24 UTC (Sat) by salimma (subscriber, #34460) [Link]

popcon does not track activity, just installation - so it's a bad choice for software that comes pre-installed, as I suspect many Linux LO installations will be.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 6:45 UTC (Sat) by naoliv (subscriber, #21066) [Link]

See where it reads "vote is the number of people who use this package regularly":

http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=libreoffice-common

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 11:34 UTC (Sat) by engla (guest, #47454) [Link]

popcon uses atime to track if packages are "used".

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 16:32 UTC (Sat) by Richard_J_Neill (subscriber, #23093) [Link]

...but everyone uses noatime now.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 17:11 UTC (Sat) by salimma (subscriber, #34460) [Link]

Well, relatime, though that's bad enough - that'd mean it'd detect only the first use of a package per update.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 20:31 UTC (Sat) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

relatime updates at least once per boot (I thought it would update daily or something like that as well)

so it would be the most recent use per boot, not the first use per upgrade

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 20:53 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

It'll update if there's more than 24 hours between the current time and the previous atime value.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 8:05 UTC (Sat) by liam (subscriber, #84133) [Link]

It seems as though popcorn tracks your usage. While I wouldn't care about that some will. Aside from that it apparently only looks at installs and not activations (actually using LO).

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 3, 2012 23:03 UTC (Sat) by tpo (subscriber, #25713) [Link]

> It seems as though popcorn tracks your usage. While I wouldn't care about that some will.

At installation time the process will ask you whether you want to install popcon or not (with an explanation of what it does). The pre-selected answer is "No". You have to change that default to have it installed.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice clash over user numbers (OStatic)

Posted Nov 4, 2012 9:28 UTC (Sun) by liam (subscriber, #84133) [Link]

I'm not sure how that changes the fact that it tracks your usage (apparently using some version of atime).
Does it let you choose to only checkin the first time (to register as an active user) but not perform any tracking?


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