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The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 0:48 UTC (Sat) by karim (subscriber, #114)
In reply to: The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro) by mjg59
Parent article: The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

I have no idea what you're talking about. I was in Cairo two weeks ago and the billboards were clearly advertizing Samsung and Huawei phones running Android, though the "Android" brand was NOT displayed. Nokia could've done the same exact thing.


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The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 0:58 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

And those are higher-end phones than the ones aimed at the markets Nokia are dominant in.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 1:29 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

The cheapest Android phones now cost less than $100. In a year or so they'll be less than $40.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 1:39 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

The cheapest Android phones are pretty awful. For the functionality it provides, Series 40 does a much better job. Right now, shifting the top end of the Series 40 market over to Android would either raise prices or reduce user experience. In a year that might have changed, but that isn't an argument for whether or not adopting Android in 2011 was realistic.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 2:07 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

So? They could have continued selling S40-based phones. Moreover, they even had ported QT to S40 making it possible to write applications working on both platforms and providing a smooth migration path.

As it is, they now have no such possibility because WP8 phones are even more hardware-hungry than Android phones.

So they've traded control over the platform for PR assistance from Microsoft. So far that hasn't worked at all.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 2:09 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

And supported three operating systems at once? That's where they had the problems to start with.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 2:17 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

And that's what they've still ended up with (WP7, WP8 and Symbian).

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 2:29 UTC (Sat) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

Calling WP7 supported is probably being too kind.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 2:41 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

Why? They still have to support WP7 for at least a year for existing phones that are _still_ being sold.

And WP7 and WP8 are completely different OSes, WP7 uses a WinCE kernel and WP8 uses a modified WinNT kernel. So they have still spent two years adapting OS just to abandon it later.

Both OSes share some level of API/ABI compatibility because apps for WP7 are written exclusively in .NET (with native API only available to Microsoft and a small clique of partners). But that was also true for the plan to use QT to make development possible for Symbian and Meego. And Meego/Harmattan was planned to be binary backward compatible with later Meego.

So the situation would have been EXACTLY the same.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 22:16 UTC (Sat) by chithanh (guest, #52801) [Link]

Indeed. There is no answer from Nokia to the $100 Android phones like the ZTE Blade. The Asha phones are toys and little more than feature phones with touchscreens.

Expecting decent $40 Android phones in a year is however a little optimistic.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 13, 2012 22:28 UTC (Sat) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/23-99-possibly-cheapest-a... - it's possible to buy a phone for 45GBP already. It's not quite $40, but it's getting very close.

And these will be fairly decent phones with a recent enough Android version (not some Android 1.6 crap from Walmart).

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 15, 2012 1:28 UTC (Mon) by chithanh (guest, #52801) [Link]

Indeed you can get that Huawei U8180 (Ideos X1) of yours and other non-decent Android devices for cheaper, e.g. here is an eBay seller who asks only 29.49 GBP for his Android smartphones:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=...

What I'd call decent is at least WVGA screen, 512 MB RAM, ability to install CM10 for advanced users - all of which the Blade satisfies but the ultra-cheap Androids don't.

The story of Nokia MeeGo (TaskuMuro)

Posted Oct 15, 2012 15:27 UTC (Mon) by BenHutchings (subscriber, #37955) [Link]

The latest CM version for the Blade is 7.2, and I see no sign that later versions will be ported.


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