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Linux and automotive computing security

Linux and automotive computing security

Posted Oct 10, 2012 23:44 UTC (Wed) by jimparis (subscriber, #38647)
In reply to: Linux and automotive computing security by martinfick
Parent article: Linux and automotive computing security

> "Back in my day", people looked behind their cars before putting the car in reverse. I was shocked to be recently hit standing still in a parking lot by someone relying on their reverse warning and not bothering to look; the warning never went off.

I was referring to the rear-view cameras, which are kind of a necessity on some cars these days due to poor visibility... (see below)

> they simply are less safe and full of BS that no one needs. Everytime I rent a car I am shocked at how poor the visibility is due to the large air bag filled columns pushed too far forward

I think many of the visibility problems stem from pushing to get better gas mileage. Vertical spaces like windows keep getting smaller. Accordingly, some of the technological "improvements" like rear-view cameras are to try to counteract those problems. It's not (necessarily) just some cranky designer having a bad day.


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Linux and automotive computing security

Posted Oct 11, 2012 3:39 UTC (Thu) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link]

According to report from inside the automotive industry, what drives the trend to reduced visibility is the desire by female buyers (who now have a predominant influence on new-car purchase decisions) to feel less "exposed". In other words, car makers are making everyone, including buyers, less safe so as to be perceived by buyers as safer.

Linux and automotive computing security

Posted Oct 16, 2012 12:18 UTC (Tue) by wookey (subscriber, #5501) [Link]

Reduced visibility due to thicker A pillars is due to more stringent crash testing/requirements. 'NCAP tests' in Europe. And a god NCAP rating really does help sell cars. But it also makes them heavier and harder to see out of. The steadily improving motor vehicle injury stats have been coming at the expense of those outside (pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists) for some time now. At least in Europe TPTB have finally understood that trying to improve the numbers by simply discouraging those other modes is counter-productive in so many other ways (obesity, congestion, noise, expense and general public realm issues), but rowing back from 50 years of 'the car is king' thinking and development is hard to do. Visibility, crash ratings and excessive tech in cars are just small parts of a much wider issue.

I've been holding on to my 1997 pre-ECU vehicle for a while now, despite its relative inefficiency, hoping to get something with free software in it so I had a least a chance of keeping some control over quality. It looks like it'll have to last at least a few more years before I can actually buy anything I might consider acceptable. But there are at least signs of useful progress in this sphere.


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