LSS: Kernel security subsystem reports

> I wasn't aware that you were calling AppArmor 'new' and claiming precedence over it because it changed its name. Sheesh. Yes, yes, you were first, well done, as long as you ignore another program which had the temerity to change its name at some point in its history. That changes everything, I'm sure. Semantic quibbling.

I used very specific words, which have a very specific meaning. I know, based on your previous arguments, that you feel words are arbitrary and their definitions subject to your own personal whims, but here are the facts:

I said I created real learning for grsecurity 4 years before AppArmor was released. It was released in 2006. It was announced in 2005 during the announcement of discontinuing Immunix OS. Two months later Novell bought Cowan's company (http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/linux/immunix/2005...), but AppArmor was not released/announced in any available product until 2006. These are just facts.

Furthermore, codomain/subdomain are irrelevant to the discussion of learning, because they didn't have any, or even an audit2allow equivalent. This only began with what they called AppArmor, the utility being called genprof, and again the reason why I told you already you wouldn't be able to find any prior mention of learning. Read for yourself: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/linux/immunix/2005...

So there was no need for me to "ignore another program" to claim to be the first. I know it's shocking to you, but "AppArmor" was not just a name change, hence my MS-DOS/Windows reference in the first line of my reply.

So here you have the real facts and evidence straight from primary sources. Do you still prefer the "facts" pulled from your ass?

-Brad