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Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Posted Sep 21, 2012 9:49 UTC (Fri) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523)
Parent article: Keeping Up With Kdenlive

I am used to Kino (also codeveloped by Dan Dennedy!) and I find the kdenlive interface (and the Openshot one) inefficient.

In kino you can import a directory of fragments of video, and Kino will quickly and automatically assemble them to a very compact SMIL file that you can play with Kino immediately. At this point you can edit the movie and most operation are instantaneous since it is just updating the timeline.

In Kdenlive/Openshot, importing the fragments is very slow and then you have to assemble them manually by dragging them to the tracks which is very slow and error prone if you have 50 fragments of 10s. Then doing a cut is very slow for no reason.

Also while kdenlive support AVCHD, there are no support for the metadata generated by the camera.

I cannot help but feel Kdenlive/Openshot fall for the powerpoint effect: attract users with fancy effects to give a "professional" look while they are actually the hallmark of amateurish movie.
Kino by contrast lets the users focus on the footage.


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Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Posted Sep 22, 2012 10:59 UTC (Sat) by StudioDave (guest, #84346) [Link]

@ballombe:

I sometimes use Kino for dumping footage from my miniDV camera, its controls are pretty nice. However, I find its UI unintuitive and definitely not useful for my way of working with video, as I've described in this article. To each his own, I'm happy to have the choices. :)

Btw, you wrote:

"In Kdenlive/Openshot, importing the fragments is very slow and then you have to assemble them manually by dragging them to the tracks which is very slow and error prone if you have 50 fragments of 10s. Then doing a cut is very slow for no reason."

I find neither condition to be true here. Clips load very quickly and I have no problems aligning them on the timeline. Ditto for cuts, they operate quickly and accurately here.

Best,

dp

Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Posted Sep 22, 2012 15:51 UTC (Sat) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]

> I find neither condition to be true here. Clips load very quickly and I have no problems aligning them on the timeline. Ditto for cuts, they operate quickly and accurately here.

I only tried Kdenlive/OpenShot with AVCHD. It it possible other formats load and cut much faster. A single cut could take more than 20s.

It is also true that I am very uncomfortable using the mouse, so dragging 50 fragments to the timeline without overlap or interleaving blank for me is a chore that will take me half an hour at best if I do not screw it and have to restart from scratch. How much time would you need to do it ?

But my point is that this is a very basic operation that can be trivially automated but is not.

Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Posted Sep 22, 2012 17:24 UTC (Sat) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]

kdenlive snaps things you drag to the timeline so even with a crappy touchpad it is quite usable. About the manual thing, i haven't tried but I'd be willing to bet that you can select all clips (CTRL-A) and drop em at once...

Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Posted Sep 22, 2012 18:03 UTC (Sat) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]

I tried that and it does not work.

Keeping Up With Kdenlive

Posted Sep 27, 2012 11:52 UTC (Thu) by StudioDave (guest, #84346) [Link]

@ballombe:

What version of Kdenlive are you using ? The Snap-to function works fine here, as does Ctrl-A to select all clips within the timeline GUI.

Best,

dp


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