User: Password:
|
|
Subscribe / Log in / New account

OpenERP

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 19:32 UTC (Wed) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439)
Parent article: The accounting quest: PostBooks

We have been using OpenERP for a year and a half now. It has had some issues, but is overall most excellent. It also has a vibrant developer community, and is true free software, not free core stuff. You can see the wide range of modules here, for the most part GPL: http://apps.openerp.com/

OpenERP is even being taught in an MIS class at CU Boulder, in LWN's neck of the woods. This is the second year the course has been offered.

Python, Postgres, truly open, native GTK client, web client, large community, easy records import/export via CSV, years of open development, what's not to like? :)


(Log in to post comments)

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 19:34 UTC (Wed) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

OpenERP is definitely on the list of projects to look at... It just takes time to work through them all, excessive exposure to accounting packages is known to cause brain damage in rats, after all...

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 19:39 UTC (Wed) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439) [Link]

Oh agreed. I went through many of the "open" ERP systems a couple years ago before settling on OpenERP. So many of them I would call "baitware". I remember one, calling itself "open", that said you'd have to do upgrades on your own if you didn't get the commercial license. This sounded reasonable, until I downloaded the package. It came as a machine image that I ran in KVM--so it was more than just accounting it was the full OS. But upgrades? Well, they had stripped out all package management systems and data about what packages were installed. Open, ya sure.... Pile of javapain... ;)

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 20:38 UTC (Wed) by xnox (subscriber, #63320) [Link]

If you need help with OpenERP feel free to poke me about it. Setting it up is non-trivial and I'm happy to assist you with any queries. I'm used to be OpenERP developer.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 20, 2012 2:27 UTC (Thu) by xnox (subscriber, #63320) [Link]

If it was not clear, the offer of help with OpenERP was for LWN.net/corbet to try OpenERP and write a good review.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 21, 2012 5:00 UTC (Fri) by jafo (subscriber, #8892) [Link]

I suspect that jebba could likely be talked into showing you what he's doing with OpenERP and other things at their offices up near my neck of the woods. Not to make an offer for him or anything, but I can connect the two of you if you like. :-) He showed me their OpenERP last year but it was well outside of what I usually hack on...

Sean

OpenERP

Posted Sep 21, 2012 5:38 UTC (Fri) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439) [Link]

Oh for sure. If you want to come up and see OpenERP here in Loveland, Colorado, you are more than welcome. You may be distracted by the largest 3D printer cluster in the world though.... (Jafo, you gotta stop by for an update too!)

FrontAccounting

Posted Sep 27, 2012 12:11 UTC (Thu) by Mike.Ralphson (guest, #85348) [Link]

Would certainly like to read your thoughts on FrontAccounting (http://frontaccounting.com/) - it's been more than adequate for my solo contracting business for the last 3 years.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 19:56 UTC (Wed) by lolando (subscriber, #7139) [Link]

I investigated OpenERP, and actually used it for a few months something like two years ago. It felt nice indeed, and I particularly liked the ability to set default values for many form fields (a global default value overridden by a client-specific default value, for instance).

However, I have to disagree on the "true free software". At least at the time I investigated, there was no procedure for upgrades across major versions apart from "hire us", and the website was quite bluntly announcing that bug reports were very likely to be ignored unless they included the identification of a customer support contract, and patches would be similarly laughed at.

Did that change in the last two years?

(If anyone cares: I switched to Tryton, which happens to be an OpenERP fork.)

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 20:40 UTC (Wed) by xnox (subscriber, #63320) [Link]

What changed?

Well they are tracking contributions & merge proposals for trunk series only. You do need paid contract for fixes backports. But you are free to merge them yourself. There are plenty of OpenERP partners that maintain stable "syrup" branches with bug fixes.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 19, 2012 20:41 UTC (Wed) by xnox (subscriber, #63320) [Link]

There is OpenUpgrade project which offers almost complete migration scripts from 6.0 -> 6.1 and partial 5.0 -> 6.0.

Tryton still doesn't have web client.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 20, 2012 2:16 UTC (Thu) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439) [Link]

> there was no procedure for upgrades across major versions apart from "hire us"

Ah yes, this is true. To do a 6.0 to 6.1 (which was a significant upgrade) you do need a support contract if you want them to do it. They do not publish the code to the migration software. IIRC it was something like this: you upload your database (including a sanatized version so you don't leak data to them), then their script does it's majick, which you then feed to Postgres. Updating the server & client is a no brainer of just installing the new python files. The db is the hard part. I have seen some free/open scripts in the forums, but they are reverse engineered.

> the website was quite bluntly announcing that bug reports were very likely to be ignored unless they included the identification of a customer support contract

I haven't seen this.

If you have a support contract entered into OpenERP, if it crashes it gives you an interface with the crash details and your contract number with an easy submit button. If you don't have a contract, you do it the old way by simply entering a bug into the bug system. I've seen plenty of this.

> patches would be similarly laughed at

I don't think it is like this. They do most work through launchpad, and I don't see people asking "what's your support contract?" anywhere. That side of it seems to be a normal free/open project. Of course patches get laughed at every so often in other open projects too. ;)

Support contracts are available from a dozen or more companies, not just OpenERP themselves, fwiw.

> I have to disagree on the "true free software".

Your point about database migration is well taken. Apart from that, it is quite open in my experience.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 22, 2012 1:20 UTC (Sat) by njwhite (guest, #51848) [Link]

>> patches would be similarly laughed at
>I don't think it is like this. They do most work through launchpad, and I don't see people asking "what's your support contract?" anywhere. That side of it seems to be a normal free/open project.

Indeed, it's fine for stuff like that. I've got patches accepted in, by writing bug reports, and attaching patches. Just like it should be.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 20, 2012 11:39 UTC (Thu) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link]

What you describe may be right, but it does not mean, that OpenERP is not truly free software or open source (in the sense of the Free Software Definition, the Open Source Definition, or the Debian Free Software Guidelines). You and everybody else is still free to offer support or write upgrade scripts yourself. AFAIK, some OpenERP partner company do exactly that.

OpenERP

Posted Sep 20, 2012 11:31 UTC (Thu) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link]

And don't forget that the new 7.0 (a.k.a. 6.2-dev) has a very polished and modern web interface (AGPL3). IMHO, it is a huge step forward compared to the current one.


Copyright © 2017, Eklektix, Inc.
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds