Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 27, 2012 18:56 UTC (Fri) by halla (subscriber, #14185)
In reply to: Otte: staring into the abyss by Company
Parent article: Otte: staring into the abyss

Well, I'm not even sure how much of gnome is still written in gtk these days. Didn't they have a second toolkit, clutter? In any case... yeah, I'm a KDE zealot but I still hate to see lots of great work in danger, that's why I consider GTK more important than Gnome.

I'm quite sure that there is not a single full-time developer working on gimp, though Michael Natterer is awesome, of course, but he's not paid to work on gimp. (Ohloh statistics are quite misleading, though, since they don't track git branches. I've got two full-time developers on Krita now, but that doesn't show up because the work only gets merged when done.)

The problem with GTK2 isn't that it will go disappear, it's that it's unmaintained and the bugs are getting very annoying. Like when gimp had to release 2.8 on Windows with broken Wacom tablet support because of a GTK bug.

Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 28, 2012 0:28 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (5 responses)

Clutter. That would be the thing maintained by Emmanuele Bassi? The Emmanuele Bassi who was specifically called out in this very article as having just stepped down as benevolent dictator?

Yeah. Yeah, they have that.

Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 30, 2012 13:14 UTC (Mon) by juliank (guest, #45896) [Link] (2 responses)

If you look at the clutter commits, you'll notice that Emmanuele is still active.

Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 31, 2012 10:59 UTC (Tue) by ebassi (subscriber, #54855) [Link] (1 responses)

I said multiple times, even to Benjamin, that I'm not stepping down from developing and maintaining Clutter. I also am not stepping down from my roles in the GNOME community - including being on the Board of the GNOME Foundation.

I honestly don't know what crack Benjamin decided to smoke, but I would have appreciated if he didn't include me in his paranoid attempt at destroying the GNOME community from inside out.

Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 31, 2012 22:42 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

My apologies for spreading the misinformation and misreading your post then.

Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 31, 2012 11:02 UTC (Tue) by jku (subscriber, #42379) [Link] (1 responses)

Just to reinforce what juliank said: Otte claims Emmanuele is leaving GNOME, but in the blog post he refers to Emmanuele says he's continuing as Clutter maintainer and is not leaving GNOME (he's just leaving Intel). Git log and his current presence at GUADEC reinforce that message pretty well.

So yeah, I guess they do have that.

Otte: staring into the abyss

Posted Jul 31, 2012 23:06 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

This just goes to show that I shouldn't try to read blog posts when hyperfocused and thinking about something else! My apologies, again.