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Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

On her blog, Fedora project leader Robyn Bergeron considers a different approach for the Fedora Users and Developers Conference (FUDCon). In the post, she suggests having a single FUDCon per year (rather than four), timing the conference so that it works well with the release schedule, and renaming (and repurposing) it to "DoCon". "Make this event be focused on the “do-ers” – and not the users. I mentioned previously in this post that it does not make the best use of our face-to-face bandwidth, and I’m sticking to that — and moreover, I think that trying to plan a parallel “user track” just winds up taking people away from getting things done. This is not a “we don’t care about the users” statement in any way, so don’t jump down my throat. But I think that mixing up the event tends to leave casual users/potential users/non-contributor users unsure about what to attend, and I haven’t seen any evidence on any large scale that users magically become contributors at a FUDCon. And there is NO REASON IN THE UNIVERSE why we can’t come up with a type of event that costs significantly less to host, requires fewer numbers of contributors to attend, and is geared solely towards users/potential users/potential contributors, and can be made repeatable in many places. The fact that a FUDCon in Pune can draw in a crowd of 500+ shows that there is absolutely interest."
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Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 25, 2012 22:48 UTC (Wed) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

Sounds a bit like DebConf, which has a way of drawing new contributors into Debian even further. The numerous comments on Robyn's post are quite interesting, I'm seeing a lot of stuff that reminds me of DebConf. An interesting trend is that Debian seems to be moving torwards both worlds; an annual DebConf in a different location each year plus multiple MiniDebConfs in different parts of the world.

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 26, 2012 1:48 UTC (Thu) by hadrons123 (guest, #72126) [Link]

did you see how many people attended debconf12? Hardly 20. If robyn wants to cut cost, she is actually killing FUDcons!

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 26, 2012 20:19 UTC (Thu) by jimparis (subscriber, #38647) [Link]

> did you see how many people attended debconf12? Hardly 20.

I count around 150 just in this one photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wouterverhelst/7565045766/si...

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 27, 2012 1:56 UTC (Fri) by hadrons123 (guest, #72126) [Link]

I don't know how they got this photo session together. But there were hardly 20 during the sessions on video, almost all the videos. You got to see the videos from the Debconf12 website.

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 27, 2012 17:57 UTC (Fri) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]

Well that is pretty normal. If you were to go by who is attending any talk, you would think that there were only 20 people attending a Fudcon. However all the breakout sessions, rooms with just hackers hacking and stuff would bring the number up to 200. My guess is that DebConf is similar in that most of the people attending are there to "work" with others and not attend some talk.

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 27, 2012 20:29 UTC (Fri) by algernon (subscriber, #11573) [Link]

You do realize there were multiple sessions going on at the same time, and that people could only be present on one, right? Plus there was the hacklab too.

If you do know of a way that allows people to attend two presentations at the same time, physically, please let me know. It would help me tremendously.

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 27, 2012 20:51 UTC (Fri) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]

I think you replied to the wrong comment.. or I wasn't clear in that was what I meant.

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 27, 2012 20:35 UTC (Fri) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]

As someone who was at DebConf12, I can assure you that there were many more than 20 people there. The munin instance indicates about 177 people confirmed and showed up at the registration desk. As you can see this was less than most years, but still nothing like the 20 that you claimed, please check your facts in future :)

http://munin.debconf.org/debconf.org/skinner.debconf.org-...

Bergeron: The Future of FUDCons

Posted Jul 28, 2012 17:04 UTC (Sat) by hadrons123 (guest, #72126) [Link]

You are right . But the Debconf attendance has reduced by half since the previous years. Becoz it was in Nicaragua. The thing is if you have CONs at places where no one is going to attend , what is the point? Don't mess around with CONs which already has good attendance like pune, India. Having one FUDcon or DOcon is going to bring the interest down at places like pune.


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