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Posted Jul 18, 2012 2:27 UTC (Wed) by proyvind (guest, #74683)
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Interesting article!

The "lack" of bureacracy and somewhat anarchistic nature of the almost as old, yet always way more open (almost anarchistic, "almost"..;) nature of Mandriva cooker is and has always been the our key to success for us to remain extremely dynamic and even quite competetive even throughout the worst of times with only a fragments of resources! :o)

Something broken in cooker would've simply not been able to remain broken for a very long while as we have a policy of no package ownership, if broken everyone would've been able to fix it immediately without any boring bureacratics or territorial egos blocking it! (of course, cannot make any claims about that we don't actually have any of these people.:p)

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Posted Jul 18, 2012 20:25 UTC (Wed) by tonyblackwell (guest, #43641) [Link] (2 responses)

While wishing Mandriva the very best and congratulating them on keeping updates in trying circumstances, Mageia is working very well with a dynamic community. Do I understand correctly that Mandriva's current plan is to base its future commercial server products on Mageia code?

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Posted Jul 18, 2012 21:23 UTC (Wed) by misc (subscriber, #73730) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes.

Current Mandriva installer ( based on livecd ) is far from being suitable for a server ( no automated installation among others, nor network one ). Lack of resources to do security updates ( or updates alone in cooker ) would be another one. For example, there is lots of old packages according to report like http://youri.zarb.org/demo/mandriva/updates.html
Puppet is outdated ( and with several CVE ), mantis is outdated ( several CVE too ), tomcat is suffering from CVE-2011-3375, sympa is suffering at least from CVE-2012-2352, etc. And that's issue in the current development version, so unless someone fix them, this will end in the next stable release.

Most server packages maintainers, if not all except those paid to work on Mandriva, are now working on Mageia, and a independent body is the best way to share the work and the burden of maintaining a distribution ( and that's why Mandriva finally moved to follow the step of Mageia by having a separate entity for the community, split from the company, because otherwise, people are not really eager to work for free if they (wrongly) feel they cannot decide anything ).

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Posted Jul 24, 2012 0:38 UTC (Tue) by proyvind (guest, #74683) [Link]

@misc: I'd love to answering this in great detail and all about your claims and all here in public and revealing what's really happened related to the truly awkward (and obviously slightly clueless) decission of jmcroset on Mageia and all..

Yet, professional integrity and respect of relations and what not dictates for me not to..

I'll rather discuss these things in private with you (and we clearly have a *LOT* to discuss amounting to two years of history now.. :/

Anyways, on the matter of updates..

Currently Mageia is having an overly tough and tiring issue with their inability of really actually truly being able to find (& hire) someone actually willing to fill the role of release support manager.

So far AFAIK (in the past) both Stew Benedict and the current person (defacto?) responsible(?) (AFAIK?) David Walser have acknowledged this, with even the latter planning on getting back to being involved with cooker again shortly..

Anyways, I'm on my last night of vacations in Amsterdam now and really wanting to have a really blast of a last night time ending it all.. :)

I'll get back to ye all soon..

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Uttermost sincerely and absolutely truly dearly,
Per Øyvind Karlsen
Mandriva Linux Project Leader
http://www.linkedin.com/in/proyvind