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ICANN adds new gTLDs

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 9:32 UTC (Thu) by dlang (subscriber, #313)
In reply to: ICANN adds new gTLDs by josh
Parent article: ICANN adds new gTLDs

I don't think it would make much difference.

zork.game vs zork.games vs zork.com vs zork.net all have the same basic problem, there are more than one way to think about a site and at any level in the name hierarchy there are only a limited number of names available to use.

eliminating country codes and the ,org/.com/.net top level domains would only promote the second level domain names to be the top level names.

I think we're headed in that direction anyway, eventually, but it's really not clear how to manage the result sanely, and taking smallish steps towards it will help find many of the problems.


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ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 17:23 UTC (Thu) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

> eliminating country codes and the ,org/.com/.net top level domains would only promote the second level domain names to be the top level names.

Yes it would just mean that all organizations have their own top level domain.

This is a good thing, not a bad thing.

Domain names are hierarchical namespace designed specifically for human recognition and therefore they should reflect how humans run hierarchical organizations.

So instead of

zork.game, zork.games, zork.com ...

you have:

game.zork, games.zork, com.zork. All of which is owned and controlled by a single Zork Corp.

So the difference is instead of forcing Zork to purchase multiple domain names from multiple groups.. name spaces that try to force some organizational methodology dreamed up years ago that doesn't apply to Zork Corp in any meaningful way.. they are in full control of their own name space and can divide up how they see fit. They can easily have new.australia.zork or africa.zork or corp.zork to divide up domains into subdomains for various purposes, internal and external.

Also it prevents confusion and deceptions from people purchasing zork.net or zork.me and such things to deceive users. Or squat on and essentially hold parts of Zork's name space hostage.

This allows a very simple human readable way to drill down a organization:

specific <----- less specific <--- organization tag

Instead of forcing people to guess if zork.eu and zork.net are owned by the same people....

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Even better though would simply to have _only_ TLD and get rid of hostname.tld completely and just go with:

zork/corp/sausage/linux/whatever/file.txt

or
zork:corp:sausage:linux:whatever:file.txt:protocol

I would like that MUCH better then any other scheme. Just have all hierarchies global in nature. Although this, I suspect, would be far too much.

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 17:38 UTC (Thu) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

Maybe we'll get rid of DNS and all switch to X.500/LDAP/AD naming...

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 22, 2012 11:55 UTC (Fri) by jengelh (guest, #33263) [Link]

Somehow, dc=www,dc=zork,dc=com does not strike me as any win over www.zork.com :)

Or we could just abolish DNS, since many already do a Google search these days just to find the right TLD to add to a company's name to get to the right site in a particular pool of same-named sites/companies. Take http://arpa.net as an example...

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 17:59 UTC (Thu) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

> game.zork, games.zork, com.zork. All of which is owned and controlled by a single Zork Corp.

except that there can legitimately be more than one Zork Corp (let alone Zork Enterprises, Zork Inc, etc) so this does not eliminate confusion

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 19:04 UTC (Thu) by josh (subscriber, #17465) [Link]

And only one of those can own zork.com today, so the issue still applies. The same first-come-first-served rule applies, but without the added confusing of having zork.{com,net,org,biz,bz,co,co.uk,...} all mean different things.

So, one will get zork, one will get zork-enterprises, one will get zorkinc, and so on.

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 19:24 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

This is an occasion for song, I'd say.

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 23, 2012 23:52 UTC (Sat) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

but you can have zork.com.uk etc.

it's very easy to end up with conflicting names, and any global naming scheme that you create will have problems dealing with the conflicts. There's nothing inherently wrong with any option, it's just a question of how people end up using it.

ICANN adds new gTLDs

Posted Jun 21, 2012 19:45 UTC (Thu) by nybble41 (subscriber, #55106) [Link]

Strictly speaking, to avoid confusion the DNS namespace should probably be divided up according to trademark domains, i.e. zork.games.pto.us, or by corporate registration, i.e. zonk.corp.md.us. Then it would be up to the PTO and/or the state to ensure unique and non-confusing names within their respective domains. The UN or WTO or similar international organization could manage a TLD for the truly international domains. Finally, we would need a place for personal domains, perhaps under each ccTLD based on citizenship.

Besides the ccTLDs and a small number of international domains (.intl or .un, .wto, etc.) there would be no other TLDs.


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