The plumbing layer as the new kernel

Posted May 3, 2012 9:03 UTC (Thu) by nhippi (subscriber, #34640)
In reply to: The plumbing layer as the new kernel by paravoid
Parent article: The plumbing layer as the new kernel

Yours is the worst comment on lwn for a while.

> Who's "everyone but Debian" except Fedora/RedHat and maybe openSUSE?

Where did invent that quote from? Only thing even remotely close in the article was the passing mention of the historic "united linux" effort.

> What if the core "plumbing people" say that e.g. only GNOME is supported? Do we all have to drop all other DEs?

We don't *have* to drop anything. But if:

1) You decide not join the plumbing people and contribute with them
2) *And* Plumbing people would make such a decision
3) *And* you choose not contribute to the other DEs interfaces to keep them up to date with new plumbing interfaces

You will end up in a situation that your DE will stop working.

As Marco points out, as long as other distros mostly consume stuff from redhat, redhat will continue to drive the decisions where Linux is headed. The only way to change that, is to start contributing more to upstream than redhat does...

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The plumbing layer as the new kernel

Posted May 3, 2012 14:49 UTC (Thu) by cate (subscriber, #1359) [Link] (1 responses)

> ...as long as other distros mostly consume stuff from redhat

"consume", like in the Red Hat glibc: "We don't care, go away!"? Red hat is not so open (contrary to the kernel) to good things outside RedHat business.

The plumbing layer as the new kernel

Posted May 3, 2012 22:03 UTC (Thu) by liljencrantz (guest, #28458) [Link]

To my knowledge, that's one or two developers, who, for a time happened to be employed by RedHat. At least one of them was very likely fired because of this attitude. I think it's rather unfair to extrapolate from that into assuming that RedHat projects in general are hostile to third party contributions. From what I can tell, Gnome doesn't seem to be. Or LibreOffice, systemd, PulseAudio or JBoss.