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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

[Posted April 26, 2012 by jake]

From:  Kate Stewart <kate.stewart-AT-ubuntu.com>
To:  ubuntu-announce-AT-lists.ubuntu.com
Subject:  Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) released!
Date:  Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:04:11 +0000
Message-ID:  <1335441851.4653.13.camel@veni>

"Imagination is as vital to any advance in science as learning and 
precision are essential for starting points."   - Percival Lowell


The Ubuntu team is very pleased to announce the release of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 
(Long-Term Support) for Desktop, Server, Cloud, and Core products.

Codenamed "Precise Pangolin", 12.04 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition 
of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a
high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution.  The team has been hard 
at work through this cycle, introducing a few new features and improving 
quality control.

To be a bit more precise about what we're releasing today...
There are 54 product images and 2 cloud images being shipped with 
this 12.04 LTS release,  with translations available in 41 languages.  
The Ubuntu project's 12.04 archive currently has 39,226 binary packages 
in it, built from 19,179 source packages, so lots of good starting points 
for your imagination!   

For PC users, Ubuntu 12.04 supports laptops, desktops, and netbooks  
with a unified look and feel based on an updated version of the desktop 
shell called "Unity", which introduces "Head-Up Display" search capabilities.  
Finding and installing software using the Ubuntu Software Centre is 
now easier thanks to improvements in speed, search and usability. 

Ubuntu Server 12.04 has made it much easier to provision, deploy, 
host, manage, and orchestrate enterprise data centre infrastructure
services with the introduction of new technologies such as "Metal as
a Service" (MAAS), the Juju Charm Store, and the latest OpenStack version, 
codenamed Essex.  These technologies further position Ubuntu Server 
as the best OS for scale-out computing.  

Read more about the new features of Ubuntu 12.04 in the following 
press releases:


http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-server-1204-lts-c...
   http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1204-lts-aims-con...

Long term support maintenance updates will be provided for 
Ubuntu 12.04 for five years, through April 2017.  For those working 
on the ARM architecture, an 18 month supported release is also 
provided for the ARM server using the ARM Hard Float (HF) architecture. 
[Update: The ARM server release has moved to ARM Hard Float (HF)
architecture and will be supported for the duration of the LTS
lifecycle. New ARM based server platforms can be supported via 
updates in the LTS point releases. ]

Thanks to the efforts of the global translation community, Ubuntu 
is now available in 41 languages.  For a list of available languages 
and detailed translation statistics for these and other languages, see:

   http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/stats/ubuntu-12.04-trans...

The newest Kubuntu 12.04 (LTS), Edubuntu 12.04 (LTS), Xubuntu 12.04 (LTS), 
Mythbuntu 12.04, Lubuntu 12.04  and Ubuntu Studio 12.04 are also being 
released today.  More details can be found in their announcements:

   Kubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release
   Xubuntu: http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release
   Edubuntu http://edubuntu.org/news/12.04-release
   Mythbuntu: http://mythbuntu.org/12.04/release
   Lubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/12.04
   Ubuntu Studio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.04release_notes


To get Ubuntu 12.04
-------------------

In order to download Ubuntu 12.04, visit:

   http://www.ubuntu.com/download

Users of Ubuntu 11.10 will be offered an automatic upgrade to 12.04 
via Update Manager. For further information about upgrading, see:

   http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade

As always, upgrades to the latest version of Ubuntu are entirely free of charge.

We recommend that all users read the release notes, which document caveats, 
workarounds for known issues, as well as more in-depth notes on the release 
itself. They are available at:

   http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes

Find out what's new in this release with a graphical overview:

   http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new 
   http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features 

If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug 
but aren't sure, you can try asking in any of the following places:

   #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
   http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
   http://www.ubuntuforums.org
   http://askubuntu.com


Help Shape Ubuntu
-----------------

If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list 
of ways you can participate at:

   http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved


About Ubuntu
------------

Ubuntu is a full-featured Linux distribution for desktops, laptops, 
netbooks and servers, with a fast and easy installation and regular 
releases. A tightly-integrated selection of excellent applications 
is included, and an incredible variety of add-on software is just a 
few clicks away.

Professional services including support are available from Canonical 
and hundreds of other companies around the world.  For more information 
about support, visit:

   http://www.ubuntu.com/support


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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 26, 2012 15:26 UTC (Thu) by intgr (subscriber, #39733) [Link]

> a switch to Rhythmbox as the default music player

So all that controversy was for nothing. :)

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 26, 2012 16:05 UTC (Thu) by etapper1 (subscriber, #48559) [Link]

Congratuations on a well done release!

Video

Posted Apr 26, 2012 16:57 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link]

OMG Ubuntu video is nice (+cool speaking voice): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6z6hn6wZlg

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 7:57 UTC (Fri) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link] (44 responses)

I know LWN is the epicenter of Ubuntu criticism(bordering hate in some cases), but you have to admit that 12.04 is a really solid release. Even Unity isn't all that horrible anymore.

Congrats

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 8:18 UTC (Fri) by halla (subscriber, #14185) [Link]

And for the Kubuntu release, I'm seeing remarks like this: "David REVOY ‏ @davidrevoy Installed Kubuntu 12.04 LTS today ; kubuntu.org/news/12.04-rel… ; the best distrib I tested so far in my life ; Congratz ! #Ubuntu #Kubuntu #Kde"

There must be something really right about this release :-)

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 8:38 UTC (Fri) by alecs1 (guest, #46699) [Link] (16 responses)

Although I find it strange, Unity is usable. But last time I tried, Klipper didn't work with it, pretty much a deal breaker. I don't have an Ubuntu to test if the bug is fixed, but I googled and found the bug was reported exactly one year ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspa... Reading that bug thread, I'm astonished at the Ubuntu folks' failure to take the last step to make the bug trackable, keep their user happy and thus pick the low hanging fruit:

Report the God Damn bug upstream on behalf of your user.

Some guy from Launchpad reacted very quickly and talked on IRC with a KDE developer about that bug, but came back and told the reporter: "go report the bug upstream" and closed the bug as invalid, when he could have spent 3 more minutes to report upstream. I don't want to offend the guy who tried to be helpful, but I find this sort of behaviour is irresponsible and amounts to shoving crap on your users' throat. The original reporter never reported back, and I would do the same if I would get this kind of crap.

An upgrading from Oneiric to Precise made the system unbootable. I think the room for improvement is huge, Ubuntu is a far cry from getting their act together.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 8:48 UTC (Fri) by Mithrandir (guest, #3031) [Link] (2 responses)

Your sense of entitlement is staggering.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 9:57 UTC (Fri) by alecs1 (guest, #46699) [Link] (1 responses)

I was convinced one of the first comments would be the one about entitlement. I avoided writing the original post to prevent the self-unfulfilling prophecy.

The point stands: he spent some time to work on this, with 5 more minutes he could have achieved a lot more: give trackability to the bug, give the "customer" a sense that the vendor cares. None of my former employers would ever dream ignoring a client like that, even if bugs would linger for 10 years.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 12:06 UTC (Fri) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link]

I thought that Launchpad was supposed to streamline bug reporting and act as a staging area for reports upstream, and I also thought that distributions were supposed to add value, not take it away.

As for the "entitlement" jibe, I guess the only response to that kind of narrow-minded thinking is for everyone to not bother reporting bugs at all and to just use something else instead. Yes, users can withdraw value from the interaction, too.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 8:51 UTC (Fri) by halla (subscriber, #14185) [Link] (3 responses)

I'm not too surprised that a KDE utility like klipper has problems with Unity. Well, I've had reports of window management/menu issues with Krita as well.

Btw, your launchpad guy, Apachelogger, is also a KDE guy :-).

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 10:04 UTC (Fri) by alankila (guest, #47141) [Link] (2 responses)

And I think there's a general acceptance to something like that. Issues that affect a few users are not worth spending almost any time on.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 10:38 UTC (Tue) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link] (1 responses)

>Issues that affect a few users are not worth spending almost any time on.

This is a good way to ensure that your software is only ever 90% done though. There will always be issues that affect only a few users since no two users are exactly the same, and usually so many of them that almost *all* users see a few of them.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 16:11 UTC (Tue) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

This is kind of a warning to not bite off more than you can chew. Work on something small and well defined that can be done well rather than something expansive that you'll never have the resources to get past 90% done. When you are in that perpetual 90% state you have an advanced hobby and not a decent product.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 9:58 UTC (Fri) by Alterego (guest, #55989) [Link] (3 responses)

> came back and told the reporter: "go report the bug upstream" and closed the bug as invalid, when he could have spent 3 more minutes to report upstream

For me this behavior is frequent on ubuntu, i got several bug reports closed that way, without anything done, even when i provided test cases.

So i switched back to debian and RHEL and am happy worker again :)

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 11:19 UTC (Fri) by tpo (subscriber, #25713) [Link] (2 responses)

+1

(this is here because +1 doesn't qualify as a valid comment)

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 12:55 UTC (Fri) by sb (subscriber, #191) [Link]

That's because "+1" doesn't communicate anything more useful than "Me, too!" ever did.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 3, 2012 7:02 UTC (Thu) by ersi (guest, #64521) [Link]

Please discontinue making comments like these. ("+1!") They do not contribute to the comments/discussion of the article in any way, in at least my personal opinion.

I do however recognize the feeling of strongly agreeing with a comment from time to time. So you're not alone in that, I'll say. I do however see the comment section more like a mailing list, as in a reply-to-all way - and it's generally frowned upon to send messages without content :-)

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 17:34 UTC (Fri) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (4 responses)

> Report the God Damn bug upstream on behalf of your user.

What if the maintainer can't reproduce the issue or doesn't personally care about the issue nearly as much as you do[1]? The maintainer is not always the best person to forward things upstream. *You* care and have the data and are more useful on the upstream bug that the aforementioned maintainer. With the inability to tack other users onto the CC list in most bug trackers I've seen, both the maintainer and the user have to go to the bug anyways. A maintainer's time is not well spent playing messenger between upstream and users that have encountered some bug just because the user cares about a bug, yet not enough to talk directly with upstream.

That said, if the issue is a common one or the maintainer can provide more information because they either know the code well enough to tell or dug a little deeper, then they might be a better fit for filing upstream.

[1]They should care, but they don't have to care as much as users would like if it's some corner case.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 18:55 UTC (Fri) by alecs1 (guest, #46699) [Link] (3 responses)

Obviously, many things in life are a question of compromise. Yeah, he saved 5 minutes. Can someone claim that the decision the maintainer made was not a mistake? I think I stated my arguments on this particular bug completely enough to cover your examples.

I don't use Ubuntu (mainly because of poor upgradability, but while testing I did give up Unity precisely because of Klipper), but should I get treated like the reporter, I'll just leave, and not necessarily to Debian. And guess what, Ditto is a better replacement to Klipper and works OK on all Windows versions I tried. And Lyx will accept my bug report and donations from Windows too. Same will stand for Pidgin, Marble, Okular and QtCreator etc.

I'll stop, and also apologise Harald Sitter that I chose his bug to exemplify what I consider a costly mistake. I'd also report the bug and link it from Launchpad, but I have no idea if it reproduces.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 19:11 UTC (Fri) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

I hadn't looked at your case specifically. I was more responding to what seemed that the user should never have to forward bugs to upstream.

Looking at it, it was indeed handled poorly (overall). Instead of being closed as Invalid, it should probably have been kept open and some indication that there was an upstream bug to be tracked in it (I'm a Fedora maintainer and an RHBZ bug can be associated with other BZs). That way, when the upstream bug is fixed, it can be asked to be backported or whatever on the distro side. Of course, I don't know the Ubuntu bug life cycle, so maybe this was "valid" under that, but I'd say if that was the case, the lifecycle needs fixed.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 29, 2012 10:41 UTC (Sun) by jond (subscriber, #37669) [Link] (1 responses)

The op should report the bug. The lp person should have politely asked them to do so. Follow-ups to the upstream bug need to go to the original reporter, not the middleman.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 29, 2012 14:46 UTC (Sun) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

Even so, the lp bug shouldn't be marked as closed (and certainly not Invalid!). At least on BZ, CLOSED bugs need an extra step to search for, so keeping it open with a reference to the upstream bug is always better than closing the bug if it isn't actually fixed in Ubuntu. The reporter can come back to lp (though I would say that the maintainer should probably at least go CC'd on the upstream bug) and notify the maintainer that a fix is available. At that point the maintainer can decide whether it's important enough to backport or just wait for the next version.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 16:08 UTC (Fri) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] (24 responses)

> I know LWN is the epicenter of Ubuntu criticism(bordering hate in some cases), but you have to admit that 12.04 is a really solid release.

It's been out one day!

Maybe in two weeks we'll be able to tell if it's a solid release or not.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 17:07 UTC (Fri) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (23 responses)

I've been running it since January. It's not really.

cgroup-bin breaks suspend on my computers (bug is reported and left without attention), radeon on dual-GPU notebooks has to be blacklisted, a lot of apps crash with 'ASSERT failure in : "Got an update for an invalid inteface. Investigate this.", file atspiadaptor.cpp, line 899' because of some changes in accessibility support. And so on.

In short, it's a usual Ubuntu release.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 19:54 UTC (Fri) by tcourbon (guest, #60669) [Link]

I beg to differ sir.

I have been also running it since Jannuary and find it quite stable. Also I second the assertion that Unity looks more like a viable shell than before. My workflow still fit better in KDE but I'm kind of fond of the HUD ("look mommy I use the drop-down menus without touching the mouse").

I never got into the Ubuntu-hate mood and that's not the release that will push me into the hating mud.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 27, 2012 21:10 UTC (Fri) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] (20 responses)

> In short, it's a usual Ubuntu release.

I've been running Ubuntu since Warty, and I've come to expect a certain amount of brokenness with a new release. Usually a subsequent release will fix problems with the prior, but introduce a new set of problems of its own. This has motivated me to skip about every other release. Unfortunately, I've had more problems with the LTS releases, but this may be that I'm just "unlucky at hardware" and not characteristic of other people's experiences.

I don't know if this is really avoidable, considering all the untested hardware that it runs on, or if other Linux distros are any better. I've also run Debian testing for many years, and while that is sometimes a bit rough around the edges, the problems are more incremental in nature, so I don't notice them that much (with a couple of alarming exceptions over the years).

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 28, 2012 9:52 UTC (Sat) by Pawlerson (guest, #74136) [Link] (19 responses)

Ubuntu team can't do much if you're running broken drivers. If you're running nvidia or amd blob then blame them.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 28, 2012 15:02 UTC (Sat) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (1 responses)

perhaps you missed the issues a year or so ago when the Intel drivers happened to break for some (but not all) Intel cards, just in time to get into a LTS release.

It was not a fun upgrade for a lot of people, especially ones who thought they had good hardware because they weren't running a AMD or Nvidia video card.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 3, 2012 14:20 UTC (Thu) by Cato (guest, #7643) [Link]

Exactly - a fixed release timeline is really a bad idea for anything that depends on hardware (including desktop environments using 3D, these days), though a flexible release date would only help if significant bugs are taken seriously.

Ubuntu often works well on lots of hardware, but getting specific hardware to work can be really painful, as with other distros.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 28, 2012 16:09 UTC (Sat) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] (16 responses)

I'm not using nvidia or amd drivers, and I don't know why you assumed that I was.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 28, 2012 17:40 UTC (Sat) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (15 responses)

it's a fair assumption, except for the one rough patch the Intel drivers have tended to be rock solid while the proprietary AMD and Nvidia drivers have caused problems routinely, so when someone complains of video problems, the odds are really good that it's because of this.

Unfortunantly a couple of years ago (around the time of the last LTS release), the Intel drivers got really messed up for about 6 months and broke on a lot of people's systems.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 30, 2012 16:38 UTC (Mon) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link] (14 responses)

>it's a fair assumption, except for the one rough patch the Intel drivers have tended to be rock solid while the proprietary AMD and Nvidia drivers have caused problems routinely

The nvidia blob has in my experience been the only solid, dependable video driver for Linux.

Okay, to be fair to the Intel driver, it is now basically functional and you can expect that your system won't crash these days, but it's hardly bug-free - for example, I've not yet met a system using Intel graphics which doesn't need the screen resolution to be set manually in xorg.conf.

If you actually look at all the cases where people are claiming problems with the nvidia blob, the vast majority don't stand up to scrutiny - typically a developer notices that the reporter is using the nvidia blob, then jumps straight to the assumption that it must be the cause of all problems because it doesn't have the magic OSS sauce.

Basically, it's just politics.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 30, 2012 17:44 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (9 responses)

> The nvidia blob has in my experience been the only solid, dependable video driver for Linux.

I've had lots of issues with the blob. Mainly when dealing with multiple monitors or WM compositing. I've not used it since around Fedora 10 or so on a day-to-day machine (I have it on a work laptop in an alternate install for OpenCL testing, but that hasn't been booted in months).

> I've not yet met a system using Intel graphics which doesn't need the screen resolution to be set manually in xorg.conf.

I have a desktop (19" 1440x900 monitor) and netbook (9" 1024x600) with Intel graphics that have never needed an xorg.conf for anything.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 10:57 UTC (Tue) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link] (8 responses)

>> I've not yet met a system using Intel graphics which doesn't need the screen resolution to be set manually in xorg.conf.

> I have a desktop (19" 1440x900 monitor) and netbook (9" 1024x600) with Intel graphics that have never needed an xorg.conf for anything.

Interesting - does that also hold for GDM/KDM/WhateverDM, or do you not use one? Did it need any special kind of configuration?

In fact I can use KDE's system settings to configure the right resolution each time I log in, rather than writing an xorg.conf from scratch, but that doesn't help for the login manager so I wonder if there might be a way to configure that.

This was all so much easier in the days when all you had to do was uncomment the right line in the provided XF86Config.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 18:39 UTC (Tue) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (4 responses)

for at least some versions of KDE there is a bug that causes it to loose it's monitor settings each boot. This is not a kernel/driver problem, strictly a KDE problem

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 2, 2012 11:28 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link] (3 responses)

The problem I'm talking about is not specific to KDE. KDM simply uses the auto-detected resolution which is always wrong if I don't have an xorg.conf.

I can live with it since I don't re-log very often and I haven't motivated myself to write the xorg.conf yet. On the one system I have that's running Gnome though I couldn't figure out how to set the resolution (it comes with what seems to be a preconfigured list of useless options) so there I did have to resort to writing an xorg.conf.

Note that at least one machine detected the resolution correctly on 2.6.32, but no kernels I've tried before or since.

I haven't tried any kernel versions that are particularly recent since the rate of regressions in Linux has conditioned me to upgrade only when it's completely unavoidable.

(And as for monitor *hotplugging* in KDE...that's a pretty guaranteed way to render this laptop non-responsive and require a power cycle)

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 2, 2012 13:51 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]

>Note that at least one machine detected the resolution correctly on 2.6.32, but no kernels I've tried before or since.

Actually now that I think about it, I believe it was 2.6.26 which worked. Before that was probably the era of massive breakage, and from there I skipped to 2.6.29 which was apparently when KMS was introduced for Intel, which seems a likely candidate for the breakage.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 2, 2012 16:09 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (1 responses)

Sounds like the modelines aren't being detected properly and you may be getting vesa's standard list of resolutions. What model is it? Mine are an X4500 HD and some mobile chip I can't remember off the top of my head (it's a System76 machine).

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 10, 2012 13:15 UTC (Thu) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]

>What model is it?

The two I currently have access to are an Atom integrated system with an 'N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller', and a more standard laptop with a 'Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller'.

Those don't really mean a great deal to me, to be honest. I just know that they're both very low-performance and seemingly not brilliantly supported.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 19:05 UTC (Tue) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (2 responses)

These days I use "exec startx" from a TTY, but when I did use a login manager (only KDM AFAIR), I don't remember any issues (KDE 4.2.x to KDE 4.4.x before I stopped using KDE on the Intel machine). An older netbook was the same way (since donated). My current netbook has never run KDM.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 19:29 UTC (Tue) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (1 responses)

I started running into the issue about a year ago when I switched to a multi-monitor setup and discovered that every boot I had to reconfigure the monitors. I did some searching and discovered that it was a known KDE problem with no documented fix.

It doesn't require you to use KDM, it's a problem in the KDE screen management after KDE starts.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 19:56 UTC (Tue) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

I've noticed that KDE's RandR configuration tool is…oddly behaved at times (even recently when helping a coworker set up 3 monitors). The command line is much better for RandR configuration (I've found no GUI that is faster to get what I want or more convenient) and I have a script in ~/.config/xinit which gets sourced to set up rotation and positioning upon login (no modeline commands though, just relative placement).

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 1, 2012 16:19 UTC (Tue) by juliank (guest, #45896) [Link] (3 responses)

> I've not yet met a system using Intel graphics
> which doesn't need the screen resolution to be
> set manually in xorg.conf.

On all 4 laptops that I own or administrate, none needs an xorg.conf; and all of them use intel graphics (and 3 different generations of intel graphics).

On boot, the kernel detects the correct screen resolution for the panels and automatically sets the correct mode. When plugging in a screen, the screen is detected, and the correct mode is set automatically.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 2, 2012 11:29 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link] (2 responses)

>On boot, the kernel detects the correct screen resolution for the panels and automatically sets the correct mode

Okay, you're making me feel motivated to take the risk of trying a new kernel version - what version are you using to get that?

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 2, 2012 13:00 UTC (Wed) by juliank (guest, #45896) [Link] (1 responses)

Anything since 2.6.32 (in Debian squeeze) works fine here. I should say I never needed any xorg.conf with the intel driver, not even before KMS. Everything just worked (well, not on my Core i5 System, that one crashed during the first 6 months I had it, as the driver was unstable back then [one or two years ago]).

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted May 2, 2012 13:53 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]

>Anything since 2.6.32 (in Debian squeeze) works fine here

So the same versions that get it wrong on all my machines then :(. Oh well.

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" released

Posted Apr 30, 2012 14:21 UTC (Mon) by muwlgr (guest, #35359) [Link]

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Unity shell is worth a try

Posted Apr 27, 2012 20:52 UTC (Fri) by Felix.Braun (guest, #3032) [Link]

I have been running this version for two months now, and I have to say that Unity has really grown on me. I like how it optimizes screen real estate. Also it is a really good environment for keyboard users (similar to GNOME3). While there are some smaller flaws left (browsing installed programs in the dash takes way to many clicks), overall I really like the new interface.

Cloud-based Linux desktop

Posted May 7, 2012 11:26 UTC (Mon) by Cato (guest, #7643) [Link]

Very off topic, but I recently found out about this cloud-hosted Linux desktop service: http://www.alwaysonpc.com/mobile/AlwaysOnPC-about - buy an app for iPad, iPhone or Android (one off fee) then you get access to a full Linux desktop with Firefox, OpenOffice, GIMP, Dropbox, etc.

Interestingly, the whole thing is marketed without mentioning Linux, and the service is included without a monthly fee.

I know this has been done before in various ways, but focusing on a mobile app and the features not the OS is a smart way of selling Linux - as with Linux web hosts and Android devices, many people using this would have no idea they are using Linux, but in fact they're using a fairly standard Linux setup.

I don't have a connection to this company, just liked the idea.


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