Various notes on /usr unification

Posted Feb 28, 2012 3:51 UTC (Tue) by bats999 (guest, #70285)
Parent article: Various notes on /usr unification

Actually, a large portion of that 250+-comment thread had little to do with /usrmove itself.

On a somewhat related note, I'd like to make a motion to retire the term "bikeshedding".

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 6:01 UTC (Tue) by krakensden (subscriber, #72039) [Link] (2 responses)

The danger of retiring the term "bikeshedding" is the inevitable bikeshedding about what to replace it with.

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 6:07 UTC (Tue) by felixfix (subscriber, #242) [Link]

How about "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"?

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 16:25 UTC (Tue) by JEFFREY (guest, #79095) [Link]

<--- I think this thread has jumpped the shark

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 7:10 UTC (Tue) by peter-b (guest, #66996) [Link] (12 responses)

> On a somewhat related note, I'd like to make a motion to retire the term "bikeshedding".

Why?

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 17:37 UTC (Tue) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

Because it's the wrong color.

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 18:21 UTC (Tue) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link] (10 responses)

Because it is tiresome, appearing in just about every discussion on the Internet, often accompanied by the equally tiresome accusations of "ad hominem" and "bad journalism" that are also due for retirement.

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 19:32 UTC (Tue) by josh (subscriber, #17465) [Link] (5 responses)

The terms won't go away as long as the issues they describe continue to exist.

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 12:11 UTC (Wed) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link] (4 responses)

Wolves may still roam the forest, but that doesn't mean that the shepherd boy needs to cry their name every time he sees the sheepdog.

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 12:21 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] (2 responses)

From where I'm sitting, moving to "retire the term 'bikeshedding'" sounds like a request to remove the word from use. All that could be achieved thereby is to cause people to concoct a new word to express the same sentiment (see also the history of words like 'moron', 'idiot', etc). That process would, in turn, probably result in a great deal of bikeshedding and miscommunication until a new status quo was achieved... whereupon someone who has then the same motives that you do now would doubtless demand that we stop using the new word for bikeshedding.

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 19:45 UTC (Wed) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164) [Link] (1 responses)

... which is exactly what has happened a few times already with words referring to immigrants in NL. A word is used, it becomes 'a dirty word', the political correct start using another word, that word becomes similarly emotionally laden, new word gets picked, etcetera. Doesn't change a thing...

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Posted Mar 1, 2012 14:34 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

This is called the euphemism treadmill.

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Posted Mar 1, 2012 8:45 UTC (Thu) by AndreE (guest, #60148) [Link]

Should we get rid of the word "wolves" though?

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 9:02 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link] (3 responses)

> Because it is tiresome, appearing in just about every discussion on the Internet, often accompanied by the equally tiresome accusations of "ad hominem" and "bad journalism" that are also due for retirement.

Wow! So, bikeshedding, ad hominems and bad journalism have all vanished from the Internet? This should make the headlines!

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 18:43 UTC (Wed) by jond (subscriber, #37669) [Link] (2 responses)

That's a straw man argument.

(sorry.)

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 22:56 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link] (1 responses)

Please explain the meaning of "motion to retire" and "due for retirement".

One of the easiest ways to troll: fight exaggeration with exaggeration. Sorry I fed it.

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Posted Mar 1, 2012 18:12 UTC (Thu) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link]

I actually forgot to suggest accusations of trolling, along with "correlation does not imply causation" and "the plural of anecdote is not data". Of course such terms and phrases describe actual phenomena, but they also seem to take the role of the panic button in any discussion.

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Posted Feb 29, 2012 23:01 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> On a somewhat related note, I'd like to make a motion to retire the term "bikeshedding".

The Internet IS bikeshedding (once you remove porn).

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Posted Mar 1, 2012 16:27 UTC (Thu) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link]

> On a somewhat related note, I'd like to make a motion to retire the term "bikeshedding".

The term at least has a meaning. I'd rather retire the term "power user" ;)