Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment [LWN.net]

Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment

Posted Jan 5, 2012 5:35 UTC (Thu) by dlang (guest, #313)
In reply to: Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment by leemgs
Parent article: Linux at the end of the world (our 2012 predictions)

having to go to a different URL to get something suitable for your device is a bug, not a feature.

If LWN added some detection to detect mobile browsers, and then converted the left bar to something else, it would be far better than almost any other site when accessed on a mobile device, no need for a completely separate USL (and the implied separate site served by it)

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Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment

Posted Jan 5, 2012 8:54 UTC (Thu) by elanthis (guest, #6227) [Link] (2 responses)

Of course it's not a bug. We type www in front of every domain name to tell the browser we want the Web page and not an FTP site, right?

(Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)

Also... m.lwn.net doesn't exist so far as I can tell. I'm getting DNS failures on both my desktop (Comcast) and phone (Sprint). LWN has always been a pain in the ass to read and use on a phone in my experience, especially when it comes to commenting (iOS devices tend to get especially very confused and lose the scrollbars in the comment fields). If there's a better way to use it, it's clearly not made obvious (or better yet, automatic).

On the upside, at least it's not as bad as the horrendous (if occasionally informative) Phoronix is. That site is a nightmare to use on a desktop with its "oops I moused over a hover-link on the way to trying to click a regular link, and now I have a page-size Flash ad" setup, and it's basically unusable on a phone.

Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment

Posted Jan 13, 2012 20:17 UTC (Fri) by Baylink (guest, #755) [Link]

"www" is what you name the web-server host if you haven't got anything *better* to name it.

Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment

Posted Jan 18, 2012 1:42 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link]

No such problems with phoronix, here, but then again, I couldn't legally install the proprietary flash if I wanted to (and generally don't bother with the freedomware gnash/lightspark alternatives), as I can't agree to the rights and black-box-liability waivers and thus in the US at least, probably would be held not to have the legal right to install and use them, even if I did want to use blackbox proprietaryware I can't examine from folks already demonstrated not to respect the user's rights, even to examine the code he's expected to agree to waive liability claims on! The noscript and requestpolicy extensions help tremendously as well, and I have privoxy installed with a phoronix-specific blocker for that page obscuring blocker ad that lacks a working close method if scripting is disabled.

But I suspect the biggest phoronix audience is gamers and others that have no ethical or legal problems with proprietaryware, and the flash ads you mention probably work for many of them. Meanwhile, it's quite unlikely I'd be in the market for anything advertised anyway (especially on a site using abusive tactics such as page-blocker ads with no way to kill them if scripting is off), so even if it's per-view paid, it's ultimately better that the advertisers don't get that view from me since that only brings down the response rate and therefore ultimately the per-view fees they're willing to pay.

And life is /so/ much better without the incessant ads... the reason I gave up on TV and radio years ago, for computers and the net, where I could better control such things. (One thing I've noticed, tho, I can listen to internet radio in German or French or Italian or Japanese or Korean or... or even local AZ over-the-air Spanish stations, and have a higher ad tolerance, since I don't understand them and thus they aren't such an insult to my intelligence after I hear them the 10th or 100th time. It takes to the 100th or 1000th time if I can't understand what they're saying anyway, before the invariant recorded repetition itself gets to me.)

Duncan