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Stand by for the word from the original refusenik...

Stand by for the word from the original refusenik...

Posted Nov 7, 2011 14:54 UTC (Mon) by alankila (guest, #47141)
In reply to: Stand by for the word from the original refusenik... by Cyberax
Parent article: Rawhide gets GNOME Shell for all display types

Reading through this list, the one problem with this suggestion is that it is -- imo -- ugly. The switcher at middle of top bar really sticks out from otherwise clean and minimalistic design, and as such it would feel very distracting indeed.

I think I agree with gnome 3 design team's idea that they want people to focus on one task and to minimize any distraction that interfere with the work being done. Do you remember how awful using Windows XP was, how the design sensibilities of that era made companies load a dozen of backgrounded applications, each which their own, bizarrely multicolored icon adding visual noise at the bottom of screen, and worse, all of them pop up notifications that say something you don't care about while you try to work?

OS X imo has the best virtual desktop scheme of all the operating systems right now. For instance, desktop switching is enabled by 4-finger gesture: 4-finger flick up moves into overview mode where you see every virtual desktop at glance in the top row, and all the windows inside, and you can rearrange the order of the desktops and even move windows between them. While using applications, 4-finger flicks left/right switch between desktops, so you can switch between neighboring virtual desktops (= neighboring fullscreen applications) very comfortably.


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Stand by for the word from the original refusenik...

Posted Nov 7, 2011 15:00 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

Windows XP was and still is beautiful. It's simple and it works. The worst part of the XP's taskbar was the window grouping which doesn't allow to immediately switch to another application.

Even now virtual desktops and simple taskbars in practice are much better than continuous expose-style previews. And the fact that design is 'ugly' should not stop it from being useful.

And expose-style desktop switching also quickly gets old. Personally, I know what my desktops contain and do not need to even consciously think about switching - it happens automatically. For new users - sure, expose-style switching is great, but Compiz does it fine.

Stand by for the word from the original refusenik...

Posted Nov 7, 2011 22:44 UTC (Mon) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link] (1 responses)

> Reading through this list, the one problem with this suggestion is that it is -- imo -- ugly.

Which is not surprising - I'm not a designer (and I also never claimed the proposed solution is best). I'm sure that workspace switcher can be elsewhere on the top bar (say right), doesn't have to have colours etc.

Stand by for the word from the original refusenik...

Posted Nov 8, 2011 2:15 UTC (Tue) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> workspace switcher can be elsewhere on the top bar (say right)

Actually, it would probably be more efficient to have it to the left, just next to Applications button. In other words, pick workspace, start app - close together.

PS. Disclosure: this is what my fallback layout actually looks right now.


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