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LF will not permit : say hello to

From:  David Greaves <david-FQ/kcb21CSxWk0Htik3J/>
Subject:  LF will not permit : say hello to
Date:  Tue, 02 Aug 2011 07:44:43 +0000
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Cc:  Henri Bergius <henri.bergius-ZpG/>,, Niels Breet <>,,
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cc'ed meego-dev as this may be of interest. Followup to meego-community please.
Also cc'ed relevant forums.

Over the past few weeks a few of us who have been involved in the MeeGo 
community infrastructure have been trying to solve a problem relating to MeeGo 
Apps :

After a few weeks when it became clear we could not resolve this problem we 
asked for a deadline when the LF would announce this restriction to the 
community. Eventually I proposed that the community start discussing this issue 
with or without an announcement from the LF on Tuesday 2nd August - and here we are.

Last week I suggested that the following statement summed up my understanding 
and although I asked for an alternative, one did not appear:

"The Linux Foundation have told us in private conversations that they will not 
permit to be served from the infrastructure hosted by 
them. They do not have the resource at this time to provide a statement giving 
their reasons. We can not assess what other services may be impacted in the future."

Ibrahim, if you have anything to add we would be grateful.

I have tried to present a factual problem statement and some options at :

Obviously, since we don't know what the problem is, it is hard to work out a 
solution - but I have proposed some options.

In the meantime we have moved ahead to provide (thanks to 
Thomas for acquiring that domain - see There are plans being worked on 
to setup infrastructure to host apps there - the community needs to decide how 
to manage that infrastructure and domain.

On a personal note I am very disappointed by the Linux Foundation's response to 
this situation. There has been no open discussion, the verbal reasons provided 
were vague (although, I must emphasise, I am not doubting that there are valid 
concerns given the nature of the legal framework in the US) and insufficient 
effort has been made to assist the community in resolving (or even 
understanding) this problem - as I mention, since we're not clear about what the 
reason is we have no idea what other services may be impacted.


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