OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
Posted Jul 29, 2011 15:25 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)In reply to: OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism? by dark
Parent article: O'Reilly: Sexual Harassment at Technical Conferences: A Big No-No
Posted Jul 29, 2011 15:46 UTC (Fri)
by dark (guest, #8483)
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Posted Jul 31, 2011 0:45 UTC (Sun)
by clugstj (subscriber, #4020)
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Posted Jul 31, 2011 0:54 UTC (Sun)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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that said, I attend a couple conferences a year and have never witnessed such behavior. (well, there was one presentation that included things that I found offensive that could have been taken as 'sexual harassment' by people who have that agenda, but I took it as bad taste on the part of the presenter, not targeted at any gender)
so while I have no doubt that it happens to some people somewhere, I don't think it's the major problem that people are making it out to be.
Posted Jul 31, 2011 4:19 UTC (Sun)
by sumanah (guest, #59891)
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Posted Jul 31, 2011 17:48 UTC (Sun)
by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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First-person reports are rare. That's for a variety of reasons, but the most notable one is that when people *have* made posts about things that actually happened to them they end up with people calling them liars or sluts, told that there's no way that anyone would want to sexually harass someone as ugly as them, told that they should be flattered by the attention, told that since the police didn't get involved there's nothing to complain about and worse. They've already been through something traumatic, so why should they invite further abuse? The internet has spoken. Naming and shaming doesn't work, it just makes things worse.
So yes, most of what you'll find ends up being anonymised or poorly cited. That doesn't make it any less real or less severe.
Posted Jul 31, 2011 22:20 UTC (Sun)
by clugstj (subscriber, #4020)
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Without actual first-person reports, why would anyone believe it really happened? Good grief, are we really at the point where we believe anything that anyone blogs about? (and by the way, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it may well be a deplorable situation, but with the low level of integrity in the new media [except LWN, of course], I think a certain degree of skepticism is reasonable.)
Posted Jul 31, 2011 22:56 UTC (Sun)
by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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Posted Aug 1, 2011 15:26 UTC (Mon)
by duffy (guest, #31787)
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Do you really fully understand the severe consequences of coming out with the details of a sexual harassment incident?
Do you not understand how such incidents might be not only frightening to talk about as it may result various forms of 'retribution' for outing the incident, but also that the details of the incident in question might be highly embarrassing and traumatic to disclose in public?
If you weren't involved, I don't think the details of such an incident are any of your business.
Simply replying "even cursory research would demonstrate that such examples abound" would have been ordinary unhelpfulness. You definitely went above and beyond by adding deceit and mockery and wasting the audience's time.
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
OK, now that sexual harassment has been deal with, how about terrorism?
