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Posted Jun 12, 2011 12:56 UTC (Sun) by spender (guest, #23067)
In reply to: Read the followup by pagexec by nix
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Call it whatever you like, I don't suffer fools gladly. In my view, you're like a child that walks into an advanced mathematics course and wants to talk over the professor the entire time because you foolishly think you have something immensely important to say.

You have a lot of comments about my ability as a teacher; I have some advice for you as well: a wise student knows to do his/her homework and when to be quiet and listen.

BTW while you all were busy spouting nonsense, I just backported a couple security fixes that didn't make it into -stable. In the one case, it made it into .39-stable but was left out of .32-longterm. Oh, and the fixes were all months old. But hey, forget objective evidence, here talking out of your ass about how people are running kernels that have all the bugs fixed is king, so suit yourselves.

Times like these remind me of the cognitive dissonance demonstrated here: http://lwn.net/Articles/290964/ and this post from the PaX team: http://lwn.net/Articles/290968/

See you next year.

-Brad

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Posted Jun 12, 2011 13:14 UTC (Sun) by mingo (subscriber, #31122) [Link]

BTW while you all were busy spouting nonsense, I just backported a couple security fixes that didn't make it into -stable. In the one case, it made it into .39-stable but was left out of .32-longterm. Oh, and the fixes were all months old. But hey, forget objective evidence, here talking out of your ass about how people are running kernels that have all the bugs fixed is king, so suit yourselves.

You make a quite elementary mistake of logic here: why do you assume that -stable backports are perfect? It's a human process and human processes are never perfect.

Our argument is that adding CVEs to change-logs and treating security bugs differently from other bugs is counter-productive, for all the reasons we outlined. You never addressed that simple argument heads on in this thread - and i submit that you cannot.

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Posted Jun 12, 2011 13:30 UTC (Sun) by mingo (subscriber, #31122) [Link]

I have a very simple question to people like you who seem to suffer from excessive narcissism: please name three other persons who are smarter and more capable than you, in the field you work in. (In most cases they are utterly unable to answer that question honestly.)

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Posted Jun 12, 2011 13:55 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (2 responses)

Call it whatever you like, I don't suffer fools gladly. In my view, you're like a child that walks into an advanced mathematics course and wants to talk over the professor the entire time because you foolishly think you have something immensely important to say.

My apologies for daring to post in any thread you have chosen to grace with your mighty presence, sire. I should have known my place, at the bottom forever, and kept silent while the adults were talking, never daring to venture comment, since that's how the free software world works.

(btw, professors really do not act like you do.)

I will shut up now, because this is verging on a flame, even if a justified one.

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Posted Jun 12, 2011 14:05 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

Apologies to Jon for lowering the tone of the discussion on LWN possibly even more than spender already had. I've filtered spender and PaXTeam out on the grounds that though they may occasionally post worthwhile things, most of their comments have me shaking with anger in seconds, so it's probably bad for my health for me to read any more of them. I will not contribute further to lowering the S/N ratio when they appear.

Because driving students away forever shaking with anger is what a good professor does.

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