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Posted May 5, 2011 2:54 UTC (Thu) by corbet (editor, #1)
In reply to: Who maintains RPM? (2011 edition) by proyvind
Parent article: Who maintains RPM? (2011 edition)

So please, since you need not lift your fingers, stop lifting them now. Personal attacks don't help anybody, and I'd really rather see fewer of them on LWN.

Thanks.


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Posted May 5, 2011 5:24 UTC (Thu) by proyvind (guest, #74683) [Link]

Corbet, you are right, my provocation lied more in the reference to the second thread which was filled with nothing but unprovoked insults directed towards me though.

But I guess we can do without the symbiotic relationship between trolling and troll cannibalism.. ;)

Btw. sorry for my mixup with me claiming you writing me trying to push rpm5 on mageia, I was thinking of the more slanderous osnews article where I even also was blamed as the developer ticking Jeff off..

For what it's worth, your article did generate positive responses and mostly healthy discussions and exchange of information that was actually quite well received at fellows at Mandriva and in our community. :)

Given that you wrote the article watching from the side-line online, you actually showed a remarkable insight which no way in hell can be compared to Fox whatsoever.

Please

Posted May 7, 2011 10:16 UTC (Sat) by boklm (guest, #34568) [Link]

> Corbet, you are right, my provocation lied more in the reference to the second thread which was filled with nothing but unprovoked insults directed towards me though.

Since the beginning you've been a Mageia hater. We can see it with mails from you like this one at the beginning of the project :
http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100930/0...

Now with rpm5.org shutdown without notice/rpm6 fork, you've tried to put the blame on "mageia dissident zealot troll" :
http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-05/msg00005.php

But thanks to the latest email from Jeff Johnson on cooker, we know more about the reasons for the rpm6 fork :
http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-05/msg00266.php

And it has nothing to do with Mageia, trolls, FUD or anything like that.

Please

Posted May 7, 2011 13:29 UTC (Sat) by proyvind (guest, #74683) [Link]

Heh, I think people reading my post will view it as quite sane, with questions asked and issued raised, which noone else did, despite they really should've been.

Some of the more sensible mageia project members, Michael Scherer, you'll find even sharing the same concerns and voicing some of the same scepticism, asking people not to attack me for asking such questions.

rpm5.org has not been shutdown and the mail forwarded to the cooker list was originally posted to engineering@, where it later was cleared up to be a misunderstanding, quoting from internal mail:

On May 7, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Denis Koryavov wrote:

> Hello Jeff and others!
>
> I think we have some misunderstanding here. Just let me to explain.
> I'm not a Mandriva manager - I work in ROSA Laboratory.
> In ROSA Laboratory we work on many projects (some of them even not based on Mandriva).
>

Yes I've misunderstood your role.

...

> P.S Since I'm not a good English speaker,
> please excuse me for my possible mistakes.
>

And I'm not a good Russian speaker.
You're excused: Never blame a dog for its master.

And anyone who thinks I resemble Britney Sphears likely uses Debian linux
(and reads osnews instead of p0rn).

73 de Jeff

------

So that's where thing actually lies on the map, so given that all your trolls and attempts at pronouncing rpm5.org dead and spreading FUD with articles of yours such as this: https://linuxfr.org/users/boklm/journaux/la-fin-de-rpm5 ,
I think it's time for you to give it a break, people are getting really tired and your motivation and agenda is so extremely transparent and unclever that it's hard to take you seriously even as a person, so for your own and to Mageia's advice, please don't harm your own and your projects credibility and image any further.

Majority of members involved in both Mandriva and Mageia has great interest in collaboration and communication, you've been actively undermining this from the start, if you have any care and respect for the community at full for any of the projects, please stop this crusade of yours immediately.

Please

Posted May 9, 2011 12:44 UTC (Mon) by boklm (guest, #34568) [Link]

> rpm5.org has not been shutdown

rpm5.org has been down for about a week (without any explanation), that's what I was talking about.

> the mail forwarded to the cooker list was originally posted to engineering@, where it later was cleared up to be a misunderstanding, quoting from internal mail:

It doesn't matter why jbj wasn't paid, if there is a valid reason or not, if there was a misunderstanding or not. I'm not talking about that. What I'm telling you is that the reason for shutting down rpm5.org website and announcing an rpm6 fork was a problem (or misunderstanding if you prefer) between Jeff and Mandriva. Which has nothing to do with Mageia, or me, or anyone trolling, contrary to what you've been saying. If there's anyone spreading FUD, it's you.

> Majority of members involved in both Mandriva and Mageia has great interest in collaboration and communication, you've been actively undermining this from the start, if you have any care and respect for the community at full for any of the projects, please stop this crusade of yours immediately.

I have not been undermining anything, I'm not against collaboration, I'm not on a crusade. And I did not announce the death of rpm5, the only thing I did was to ask a simple question about the status of rpm5.org [1] (which it seems interested a lot of people according to the answers in the thread). If Jeff decided to insult people, only give cryptic answers and create rpm6.org, I'm not responsible for this. And I have nothing to do with rpm5.org being shut down. So please stop spreading FUD on me, accusing me of various things, insulting me ...

[1]: http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2011-04/msg00473.php


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