The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience [LWN.net]

The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

Posted Mar 17, 2011 4:57 UTC (Thu) by nevets (subscriber, #11875)
In reply to: The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience by jmalcolm
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

They can be easily configured so that you can hardly tell the difference and again they are using many of the same libraries and many of the same freedesktop.org standards. Certainly GTK+ unites them all.

That's the kicker: easily configured which seems to be the thing that gnome wants to avoid. It tries very hard to be no way in hell do I want users to do anything different than what I tell them to. I spent a full day trying to get rid of metacity and replace it with sawfish (later to switch it to xfwm4). I just didn't want to waste time learning xfce totally, so I kept gnome and used a different window manager.

I don't know why gnome makes it so hard to change things. To me, it seems the gnome developers are lazy, and do not want to be bothered by supporting such options.

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The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

Posted Mar 17, 2011 16:19 UTC (Thu) by Frej (guest, #4165) [Link] (2 responses)

I really should stop this. But be polite and nice to others.

PS: They are not lazy, they release a product every 6 month. Try contributing instead of calling out others as lazy.

The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

Posted Mar 17, 2011 16:30 UTC (Thu) by nevets (subscriber, #11875) [Link] (1 responses)

Well, I didn't say they were lazy, but it just "seems" that they are. One could interpret that as being the same as just calling them lazy. But that may also not be too bad of a thing to say. As Larry Wall once said: "Lazy programmers are the best programmers". :)

I know when I support products, the more options it has, the more work it takes to support the product. IIRC, during the 1->2 switch, that was one of the reasons they took out some of the features. It was too much work to support them. I think the moving to another workspace by pushing the mouse to the side of the window was one of the things that was dropped for this reason.

That feature is a major part of my work flow and I took it personally. That's also the #1 reason when ever I install a new desktop, the first thing I do is to replace metacity. Which is also the most time consuming part of installing a new desktop, as gnome makes it very hard to replace it.

The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

Posted Mar 18, 2011 1:04 UTC (Fri) by Frej (guest, #4165) [Link]

Did you ask if was possible as a separate party process/extension?
The workspace part seems simple, tracking the mouse pointer, not easy, but i'd guess it's doable.

http://library.gnome.org/devel/libwnck/stable/WnckWorkspa...