The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience [LWN.net]

The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

Posted Mar 17, 2011 4:49 UTC (Thu) by nevets (subscriber, #11875)
In reply to: The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience by nix
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

I have a 4x2 workspace layout, and I usually fly from one workspace to another by zipping my mouse to the edge, wait a half second and then pop to the next workspace. This has long been deprecated by the gnome folks, which I've been using sawfish to take over. Lately, since sawfish is now pretty much unmaintained, I've been using xfwm4.

Gnome3 scares the crap out of me. My box doesn't support 3D (I build my boxes, and always buy the cheapest video card I can find). It sounds like I can't even use most of the new features that come with it.

I'll have to remember to press "HOLD" in aptitude on gnome (like I did for grub) and stick it out for as long as possible. By the time I'm forced to go to gnome3, I think I may be switching to KDE.

As I believe Linus once said: You make a desktop environment made for idiots, only idiots will use it.

The Grumpy Editor's GNOME 3 experience

Posted Mar 19, 2011 8:22 UTC (Sat) by cas (guest, #52554) [Link]

This has long been deprecated by the gnome folks, which I've been using sawfish to take over. Lately, since sawfish is now pretty much unmaintained, I've been using xfwm4.

I stuck with sawfish for years but ended up switching to openbox (after briefly trying metacity) for the same reason.

i'm pretty happy with it. can't say i really miss anything from sawfish. OB gives me a no-fuss WM without forcing animation and other annoying & distracting bling on me.

i'm going to have to look for a decent replacement for gnome-panel sometime soon. i expect it will be "deprecated" to force people into gnome's Glorious Vision whether they like it or not. Unfortunately, I haven't yet found one that is an adequate replacement.

My box doesn't support 3D (I build my boxes, and always buy the cheapest video card I can find).

even the cheapest video cards available these days can do 3d acceleration. and that's been true for years (but until fairly recently only if you're willing to install proprietary drivers for them)

not that that is an excuse to force 3d crap in your WM on you if you don't want it.

and that, i believe, is the reason why Gnome's changes generate so much hostility - they come up with what is, to them, an amazing idea and expend all of their development effort on it. but instead of making it available as an option to allow people to try it and gradually get used to it (or decide "it's not for me, i'll stick with what i like") they force it on everyone...and not even as the default option, but as the ONLY option

personally, i'd rather they concentrated on fixing existing bugs than go chasing shiny new things all the time, but volunteers have the right to work on what they want to.