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Posted Mar 9, 2011 20:44 UTC (Wed) by vonbrand (guest, #4458)
In reply to: bash by marcH
Parent article: Red Hat and the GPL

Great! Let's now go bash the FSF for not complying with GPL then!

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Posted Mar 9, 2011 21:18 UTC (Wed) by branden (guest, #7029) [Link]

Sure. You go right ahead and tell the FSF to sue itself.


Posted Mar 9, 2011 23:52 UTC (Wed) by airlied (subscriber, #9104) [Link]

double standard much?

since you aren't suing anybody in here but just bashing Red Hat and claiming uber-GPL knowledge, not sure why you don't feel the need to bash FSF.


Posted Mar 10, 2011 1:37 UTC (Thu) by branden (guest, #7029) [Link]

It's because the FSF is the copyright holder in their own works. (Not the *sole* copyright holder, but their works are vastly more homogeneous in copyright ownership than the Linux kernel is.)

It is a long established principle that a copyright holder cannot violate the license in his/her/its own work.

Consequently, the copyright holder can distribute the "source" of a GPLed work of theirs in any form they wish, or not at all.

Red Hat is not in this position with respect to the Linux kernel.

Does that clear things up?

(I swear--people don't read my long posts, and don't understand the short ones.)


Posted Mar 10, 2011 1:40 UTC (Thu) by branden (guest, #7029) [Link]

To further clarify:

1) The FSF really is the sole copyright holder in bash. I've reviewed its source code many times.

2) The double standard of which you complain is established by Title 17 of the United States Code. Copyright holders enjoy exclusive rights. That's just the way it is.

We could discuss reforming copyright law to be more equitable, but that's out of scope for this thread even by my freeweheeling assessment.


Posted Mar 10, 2011 1:42 UTC (Thu) by branden (guest, #7029) [Link]

If you want to hear me bash the FSF, just say my name (I'm like the devil and appear when thus summoned) next time LWN covers the GNU FDL.


Posted Mar 9, 2011 22:58 UTC (Wed) by jone (guest, #62596) [Link]

bad pun ..

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