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Posted Dec 24, 2010 6:14 UTC (Fri) by jeremiah (subscriber, #1221)
Parent article: In Memoriam: the free software projects we lost in 2010

I took a look at this project 2 ish years ago. They just weren't quite up to snuff. But I think their real problem is that google/google apps came along and stole their momentum. Chandler was designed as an exchange killer, but google seems to have done a better and quicker job. RMS's dislike of the 'cloud' aside, why bother hosting your own services if you don't really need to? I wonder if procmail kind of went this direction as well. How many folks are still hosting their own user email systems?

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Posted Dec 24, 2010 11:09 UTC (Fri) by alex (subscriber, #1355) [Link]

I still host my own email server and personal mailbox on my server. Of course all my mailing list email is forwarded to a GMail account (7.2gb and counting).


Posted Dec 24, 2010 18:08 UTC (Fri) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

I'll bet that there are more people hosting their own mail today than there ever have been in the past.

at the same time, I'll bet that as a percentage of total users, fewer people are hosting their own mail today than ever

these are both even more the case if you consider a business as a person in the statements above.

besides, where do you think all the ISPs get the software to host the mail for their users? it's the same sources that individuals and businesses use.


Posted Dec 24, 2010 18:58 UTC (Fri) by jeremiah (subscriber, #1221) [Link]

But how many of those ISP's include calendars, contacts etc. That whole Exchange setup? I've never compared Zimbra to procmail's functionality, but I'm sure it had a large impact on Chandler. I still think the majority of users out there use a major web service provider. I still send mail using my own services on my servers, but I viewed inbound as not worth my time any more. Whether security or spam related, it just became too much of a burden to keep up with, along with everything else. The less servers/services I have to maintain the better. No documentation to keep up with. No having to train juniors to do it, much less hire them just for that. A number of universities have switched to gmail. smaller schools which never had 'personalized domain' email to being with now been able to come online with gmail. The vast majority of litigant/ticket related email addresses we process are web service based. Personally I'm also partial to being able to take your email/address with you, so I've always tried to avoid the ISP provided email address. Too bad Netcraft doesn't track email servers.

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