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elevated ?

Posted Nov 24, 2010 15:02 UTC (Wed) by copsewood (subscriber, #199)
In reply to: Ghosts of Unix past, part 4: High-maintenance designs by ikm
Parent article: Ghosts of Unix past, part 4: High-maintenance designs

"one could expect a somewhat elevated level of people who are opposed to religion"

Oh dear. Please reread that sentence slowly and try to consider how it might seem, to someone who doesn't agree with you, for you to claim superiority on that account. It might surprise you that Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists, Sikhs, Agnostics and others can be found at any point on the scale of learning from illiterate to professorial.

As to the quote of timeless ancient wisdom within the article, I found it amusing, agreeable, appropriate and illuminating. Appropriate because those who won't learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat these. It could of course be equally appropriate for Bertrand Russell or Karl Marx to be quoted in a well-thought out article in LWN regardless of the fact that these significant thinkers were atheists.


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elevated ?

Posted Nov 24, 2010 17:10 UTC (Wed) by ikm (subscriber, #493) [Link]

Sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone. I won't go on to describe just why I think it is elevated, let's just leave it as a opinion of mine. As for how it might seem to others -- you are right, I have mentioned there would be no good coming from discussing that.

I also won't participate in this anymore; clearly, this discussion IS the road to destruction no matter how you go about it.

elevated ?

Posted Nov 26, 2010 23:16 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

It might surprise you that Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists, Sikhs, Agnostics and others can be found at any point on the scale of learning from illiterate to professorial.

For my part, I don't claim educated people are superior to uneducated or that religious people are inferior to nonreligious, and I don't even know what "elevated" means as a quality of a person, but let me say that in spite of the diversity you point out, I'm willing to bet there is a strong negative correlation between education and religiousness.

I haven't seen any study of this, and I think one challenge in reporting such would be measuring "religious." I do believe a lot of people who describe themselves as religious aren't really. E.g. in choosing between medical treatments, one based on scientific conclusions and the other based on teaching of clergy, many such people would easily choose the former.

Tying back to the issue with the article, I doubt the author expected us to believe religiously that the road to destruction is wide, but rather to consider from our own educations whether it's true.


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